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The Gauche in the Machine ([personal profile] china_shop) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2025-02-20 01:55 pm
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Poll: Hallows and Antagonists (dramaverse)

Define "best" however you like -- best for the story, best designed, the one you most want to get your hands on, whatever. :-)

Poll #32705 Hallows and antagonists
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 21


Best Hallow?

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Longevity Dial
9 (45.0%)

Mountain-River Awl
4 (20.0%)

Merit Brush
4 (20.0%)

Guardian Lamp
3 (15.0%)

Who would you most like to yeet into the sun? (pick up to three)

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Zhu Jiu
7 (33.3%)

The Regent
11 (52.4%)

The Regent's Deacon
9 (42.9%)

Ding Dun
5 (23.8%)

Minister Gao
1 (4.8%)

Zhao Xinci
1 (4.8%)

Zhang Shi
1 (4.8%)

the Rebel Chief in Ye Olde Haixing Era
12 (57.1%)

other
1 (4.8%)

shadaras: A phoenix with wings fully outspread, holidng a rose and an arrow in its talons. (Default)

[personal profile] shadaras 2025-02-20 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I love that as of my vote it's perfectly evenly distributed between the hallows!

I originally wanted to vote for the Guardian Lamp but then I realised that my big feels about it are from the novel, and you specified dramaverse here. xD
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
I like the lack of possibility to cheat in the Hallows poll, one choice only. :D Story-wise, the Longevity Dial obviously, but this one is gonna win anyway, so I voted for the Mountain-River Awl because it basically makes you immortal and I wouldn't mind that, even if sometimes you need to hide in a sex doll. xD (Actually that would probably be fun too, like, who ever gets to do something like that otherwise. xD)

And in the other poll I just voted for the Rebel Chief (I'm quite impressed with myself not even wanting to cheat the system xD) - you fix nearly every single problem this way, as long as you yeet him early enough. /EFFICIENCY There should be there probably are fix-it fics where you just yeet him into the sun and voila, no other problems left to solve. :D
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'd give him a yeet, I have two left. xD
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
In the dramaverse I'd literally pick anything but the Guardian Lamp, even if it was multiple choice, simply because it broke my heart into little pieces and I get sad from just looking at it. Who needs logical arguments. xD I was even wary of it in the novel for this reason too, but of course it's all completely different. :)
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's kinda as unrelated to the drama version as the Merit Brush was? Okay, a little less unrelated, but not much. :)
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[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, it's hard to choose between the Hallows. I disqualified the Merit Brush immediately, but the Longevity Dial has the energy exchange! The Awl has energy ghosts, which are such an amazing get-out-of-death-free mechanism! And I just love the ending, which the Guardian Lantern is essential to ... *frets* I think I'll pick the Lantern, just because of the ending, but I reserve the right to change my mind!

Much easier choice with the yeeting! (I think Professor Ouyang is also deserving of a yeet, but I had none left. *g*)
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - fuck around)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, "waste a yeet on him" just made me laugh out loud for real. :D
trobadora: (Shen Wei & Ye Zun - hands)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
you fix nearly every single problem this way, as long as you yeet him early enough. /EFFICIENCY

Ha, that's so true!

And I like your Hallows reasoning! I also picked a Hallow I thought was going to get fewer votes.
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
I knooooow, I keep thinking 'but how do you keep Weilan intact in this situation??' (I don't need the rest of the drama. xD Like, I don't need it the way it is, I'll take any story, just keep at least some of the characters around. :D) But really you just need them to meet once, in any circumstances whatsoever, and you're good. :D So, idk, any kind of deus ex machina reasons that send ZYL to the past anyway, he meets Shen Wei who's not traumatized, PROFIT?? :D I have no idea where it could go from there plot-wise, but I'm down for the ride!

(Also you can just yeet the Rebel Chief into the sun later, after he already broke everything, just because he deserves it. xD)
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - wait)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
You fix nearly every problem, but you also eradicate the entire drama, possible the whole ancient war, and quite likely SW/ZYL, too! Oh no!

Oh no! You make a persuasive argument!

Though he still deserves a punitive yeeting, even if we have to let him exist for the sake of Weilan the timeline.
trobadora: (Hei Pao Shi/Zhao Yunlan)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
*high fives on your last paragraph*

(Personally I really don't want to lose the drama, and the time loop especially, but I would totally be here for reading that AU!)
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[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
"I disqualified the Merit Brush immediately, but the Longevity Dial has the energy exchange! The Awl has energy ghosts, which are such an amazing get-out-of-death-free mechanism!"

Yepppp! ♡ Exact same reasoning for me, including disqualifying the Merit Brush right away, haha. :D

"(I think Professor Ouyang is also deserving of a yeet, but I had none left. *g*)"

Oh, HE SO IS. But I'm now I'm being stingy with my yeets, lmao, and really curious to see what other people add as "other" - so many good options!
autodach: King Louie (KL)

[personal profile] autodach 2025-02-20 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
I picked the lantern, because it has the most emotional impact and lighting up all of Dixing is an impressive feat.

The Regent's Deacon needs to go the most. Slimy little bastard. I also voted for Ding Dun because of his weirdly complicated fortune teller scheme.
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
Theoretically it could still be a time loop, especially if you already have time travel, but omg I FEEL YOU. Like, I want to fix everything for everyone, but letting go of the canon Weilan story is HARSH. But they'd still find each other and be happy and so much less traumatized. But I would miss so many things. DAMN. xD
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - Lantern & Pendant)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
So far the Deacon and the Rebel Chief have been yeeted the hardest, and I 100% agree they deserve it the most. *g*

And I'm delighted you picked the Lantern, too! Emotional impact indeed, and the drama's ending is kind of unthinkable to me without both Zhao Yunlan's sacrifice and Dixing getting light.
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - screaming)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-02-20 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
*clutches canon to chest* I can't, I just can't ... *g*
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
I had to double check who the Deacon was when I first saw this post (the translations of the functions are kinda whatever they want to be at any given moment :D), and I was like 'oh yes, THIS ASSHOLE'. ITA!
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[personal profile] shadaras 2025-02-20 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
It is quite different in how it plays out, yes! It's all caught up in the gods and ghosts aspect of the novel, which obviously the drama wasn't allowed to have. :)
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan gesturing)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-02-20 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
In an effort to have my cake and eat it too, I came up with: Weilan post-canon fix a different timeline for baby Shen Wei and Ye Zun by yeeting the Rebel Chief into the sun. Their alternate versions still find each other later because they always do. They live a totally different story, but it doesn't matter because the original Weilan already had theirs.

I have no more details and no intention to write it (this would be a behemoth of a story!), but at least I'm satisfied. xD
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[personal profile] trepkos 2025-02-20 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I was gonna say The Regent, but I ended up having a little bit of sympathy for him, despite how annoying and cringe-worthy he was!

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