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Guardian readalong: chapters 3 & 4
Hi, everyone, whether you were already here last week or are just joining us now! Last week's discussion post for the prologue and chapters 1 and 2 will remain open, of course, so feel free to comment there at any time. :)
Today we're on to chapters 3 and 4.
- Chapter 3: Shen Wei takes Zhao Yunlan, Daqing and Guo Changcheng to the admin building, where they encounter much creepiness and ghostly happenings.
- Chapter 4: Shen Wei saves Zhao Yunlan from falling off the roof, and Zhao Yunlan questions Li Qian.
Excerpts
1) Guo Changcheng's impression of Shen Wei
For some reason, after a few steps, Guo Changcheng looked back.
Shen Wei had yet to take even a single step from the spot. He'd removed his glasses and was absentmindedly wiping them with the corner of his shirt. In the dim hallway, his shadow stretched out, long against the floor, looking lonely and dejected. The eyes that had so determinedly avoided Zhao Yunlan were now fixed on his back.
There was a dark distance in that intense gaze. His expression held both a sort of restrained yearning and an affection that was almost palpable...but at the same time, there was deep, crushing pain.
Out of nowhere, Guo Changcheng got the feeling that the man had been standing there for thousands and thousands of years.
2) The SID's history
The Soul-Guarding Order had existed since ancient times. It served to conduct Netherworld business in the mortal world, act as a medium between yin and yang, and coordinate the Three Realms. Historically, it had fallen under the Imperial History Bureau. After the People's Republic of China was founded, the Soul-Guarding Order came under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Public Security. That was when the Special Investigations Department had been established.
The current director of the Special Investigations Department, Zhao Yunlan, was also the Guardian. This Guardian was equally comfortable in the Netherworld or in banquet halls. He was talented and smooth, able to hold his alcohol and exchange cups with anyone in the Three Realms. Eating, drinking, whoring, gambling, or putting on a show-he was an expert at it all.
3) Shen Wei rescues Zhao Yunlan
Zhao Yunlan hesitated, but then, despite the fierce wind atop the tall building, he met Shen Wei's eyes and saw himself in their depths-himself and, somehow, the night sky, impossibly intermingled. For some reason, looking up into those eyes, Zhao Yunlan instinctively let go and placed everything, including his insignificant little life, in Shen Wei's hands.
He regretted it the moment he let go. Is lust rotting my brain?
In the next second, Shen Wei hauled him up by sheer force. His unimposing, scholarly appearance belied an unusually powerful grip-Zhao Yunlan's wrist was rapidly going numb, his fingers purpling. The friction pushed his sleeve up to the elbow, scraping a layer of skin from his forearm.
Then he was being held tightly in Shen Wei's arms as they both collapsed on the roof-tightly enough that his bones creaked in protest, as though Shen Wei were hugging something he'd lost long ago. A strange feeling stirred in Zhao Yunlan when he glanced at his wrist and saw the bruises from Shen Wei's hold on it.
4) Have you seen me before?
"Shen-laoshi, have you ever seen me before today?"
Surprised, Shen Wei met his gaze, mind going blank. For two full seconds, he could only stare at Zhao Yunlan, unable to look away. Finally, his throat a little dry, he said, "I... Yes. I saw you before."
Zhao Yunlan raised an eyebrow and waited for him to finish.
"I..." A conflicted expression flitted across Shen Wei's face. Just as Zhao Yunlan thought he was about to tell a fantastic story of how incredibly their lives were entangled, Shen Wei's tone lightened. "Actually, I saw your team working on a case."
Zhao Yunlan felt a sudden pang of disappointment, as though his hopes had been lifted just to be let down gently.
Questions
How are you enjoying things so far? What's your favourite line or moment in these chapters? Any particular bits that drew your attention? Any favourite worldbuilding elements or character details? Parallels or contrasts with the drama? What do you make of the hints and foreshadowing we're given? What's your impression of Li Qian? If you're reading a different translation or a Chinese edition, how do the excerpts above compare? Any other thoughts? (Note: these are just conversation starters. Feel free to answer all, some, or none, and to say as much or as little as you like!)
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臭基佬你瞎吧？ “Are you blind, you dumb queer?” Omg Da Qing. Establishing ZYL’s sexuality right off the bat.
看来不是沈教授，是她把我们带进来的
“It looks like it wasn’t Shen Wei, but her who led us in.”
Wait, but how did “she”, I assume the ghost lady, lead them in? they went in on their own two feet, voluntarily, following Shen Wei.
ZYL bullying GCC in front of all those people was so delightfully petty.
Omg what kind of class does Shen Wei teach, I wonder, that he goes over the “acceptable” conditions to want to die.
Oof that description of Li Qian grinding her teeth. I can hear it. I can feel it. I don’t like it 🤣
Callback to 那颗没节操的心 “that old lacking-integrity heart” when describing ZYL’s attraction to Shen Wei. (“It itched.”) So funny.
I don’t think ZYL knew what the Longevity Dial was at first in the drama, but he does here. And: it’s Transmigration Dial here instead of Longevity? Right, I think it was 长生晷 in the show and it’s 轮回晷 here.
“问完我立刻滚蛋” “When I’m done asking I’ll fuck right off.” ZYL isn’t even formal in the field with a new acquaintance. Crying.
🤣🤣🤣 He called himself 警察叔叔, Uncle Policeman. I cannot express how delighted I am that ZYL is the type of character who refers to himself with ever more informal epithets instead of just saying “I”.
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Maybe it means he's suspecting the ghost lady of being the culprit, not Shen Wei, and "who led us in" is kind of a metaphor? (I can't find the equivalent point in the official translation.)
I don’t think ZYL knew what the Longevity Dial was at first in the drama
Yeah, it was Zhu Hong who explained it.
ZYL isn’t even formal in the field with a new acquaintance. Crying.
LOL! I find it delightful. :D And oh, thank you for the "Uncle Policeman" translation. *hearts and hearts* :D
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It's in chapter 3:
Daqing sniffled and sneezed. “What a massive amount of resentment.”
Bending down to pick him up, Zhao Yunlan said, “Looks like it was her who brought us here, not Shen-laoshi. Maybe he really doesn’t have anything to do with this. Let’s go check it out.”
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Trobadora explained what the author might have meant in a different comment, and I think it makes sense!
I wonder what the official translation used instead of Uncle Policeman. It’s when ZYL is telling Li Qian “But you already said you’d finished shopping. Classmate, Uncle Policeman here would rather play the good cop, but you gotta cooperate with the investigation.” Roughly.
(I don’t mean to ask you to answer, btw. But…if anyone sees this comment and feels like looking through the official translation, I’m very curious.)
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“Didn’t you just say you’d already finished shopping and had just left?” Zhao Yunlan interrupted again. His tone was harsh now. “Tongxue, there’s nothing I want more than to be a friendly neighborhood Mr. Policeman. I don’t want to scare you. But you need to do your part to cooperate with the investigation, so tell me the truth, okay?”
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Hee! I love it. The official translation has, “Are you blind, you gay fool?”, which works for me.
Wait, but how did “she”, I assume the ghost lady, lead them in? they went in on their own two feet, voluntarily, following Shen Wei.
Yeah, but remember right after Shen Wei leaves, when ZYL says to Daqing, “Haven’t you realized that, wherever this is, it’s not the math department?” And then again, after they come back in from the roof, it says, The previously desolate hallways seemed to have suddenly returned to the realm of the living, and many of the teaching staff poked their heads out to ask what was wrong. So I took that to mean the ghost had done something so they'd walk into an otherworldly ghost-version of the building, and they emerge back into the real one when they come back with Li Qian.
Callback to 那颗没节操的心 “that old lacking-integrity heart” when describing ZYL’s attraction to Shen Wei. (“It itched.”) So funny.
Hee! And 心里痒痒 is an expression, as in "itching to do something", in the desire/temptation sense I think? The official translation has ZYL's heart "flutter", which isn't quite the same thing ...
And: it’s Transmigration Dial here instead of Longevity? Right, I think it was 长生晷 in the show and it’s 轮回晷 here.
That's right about the drama, and it should be Reincarnation Dial for the novel.
“问完我立刻滚蛋” “When I’m done asking I’ll fuck right off.” ZYL isn’t even formal in the field with a new acquaintance. Crying.
Delightful!!!! And Uncle Policeman, OMG. ♥
Thank you for sharing all these choice bits! :D
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Thank you for explaining! That makes sense about the otherworld-math department.
Reincarnation Dial makes sense too.
Yeah 心痒 (itchy heart) is desire, and suddenly I’m feeling for those translators. That seems like a difficult sentence.
The adjective Da Qing uses in front of “gay” is actually “stinky” but it’s not the same in English 😆
And I can’t believe they didn’t keep Uncle Policeman. I giggled when I read it.
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Thank you! And yeah, very true, I feel everyone who said priest is hard to translate is definitely right.