Guardian readalong: chapters 3 & 4

[trobadora]

Hi, everyone, whether you were already here last week or are just joining us now! Last week's discussion post for the prologue and chapters 1 and 2 will remain open, of course, so feel free to comment there at any time. :)

Today we're on to chapters 3 and 4.

• Chapter 3: Shen Wei takes Zhao Yunlan, Daqing and Guo Changcheng to the admin building, where they encounter much creepiness and ghostly happenings.
• Chapter 4: Shen Wei saves Zhao Yunlan from falling off the roof, and Zhao Yunlan questions Li Qian.

Excerpts

1) Guo Changcheng's impression of Shen Wei

For some reason, after a few steps, Guo Changcheng looked back.

Shen Wei had yet to take even a single step from the spot. He'd removed his glasses and was absentmindedly wiping them with the corner of his shirt. In the dim hallway, his shadow stretched out, long against the floor, looking lonely and dejected. The eyes that had so determinedly avoided Zhao Yunlan were now fixed on his back.

There was a dark distance in that intense gaze. His expression held both a sort of restrained yearning and an affection that was almost palpable...but at the same time, there was deep, crushing pain.

Out of nowhere, Guo Changcheng got the feeling that the man had been standing there for thousands and thousands of years.


2) The SID's history

The Soul-Guarding Order had existed since ancient times. It served to conduct Netherworld business in the mortal world, act as a medium between yin and yang, and coordinate the Three Realms. Historically, it had fallen under the Imperial History Bureau. After the People's Republic of China was founded, the Soul-Guarding Order came under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Public Security. That was when the Special Investigations Department had been established.

The current director of the Special Investigations Department, Zhao Yunlan, was also the Guardian. This Guardian was equally comfortable in the Netherworld or in banquet halls. He was talented and smooth, able to hold his alcohol and exchange cups with anyone in the Three Realms. Eating, drinking, whoring, gambling, or putting on a show-he was an expert at it all.


3) Shen Wei rescues Zhao Yunlan

Zhao Yunlan hesitated, but then, despite the fierce wind atop the tall building, he met Shen Wei's eyes and saw himself in their depths-himself and, somehow, the night sky, impossibly intermingled. For some reason, looking up into those eyes, Zhao Yunlan instinctively let go and placed everything, including his insignificant little life, in Shen Wei's hands.

He regretted it the moment he let go. Is lust rotting my brain?

In the next second, Shen Wei hauled him up by sheer force. His unimposing, scholarly appearance belied an unusually powerful grip-Zhao Yunlan's wrist was rapidly going numb, his fingers purpling. The friction pushed his sleeve up to the elbow, scraping a layer of skin from his forearm.

Then he was being held tightly in Shen Wei's arms as they both collapsed on the roof-tightly enough that his bones creaked in protest, as though Shen Wei were hugging something he'd lost long ago. A strange feeling stirred in Zhao Yunlan when he glanced at his wrist and saw the bruises from Shen Wei's hold on it.


4) Have you seen me before?

"Shen-laoshi, have you ever seen me before today?"

Surprised, Shen Wei met his gaze, mind going blank. For two full seconds, he could only stare at Zhao Yunlan, unable to look away. Finally, his throat a little dry, he said, "I... Yes. I saw you before."

Zhao Yunlan raised an eyebrow and waited for him to finish.

"I..." A conflicted expression flitted across Shen Wei's face. Just as Zhao Yunlan thought he was about to tell a fantastic story of how incredibly their lives were entangled, Shen Wei's tone lightened. "Actually, I saw your team working on a case."

Zhao Yunlan felt a sudden pang of disappointment, as though his hopes had been lifted just to be let down gently.


Questions

How are you enjoying things so far? What's your favourite line or moment in these chapters? Any particular bits that drew your attention? Any favourite worldbuilding elements or character details? Parallels or contrasts with the drama? What do you make of the hints and foreshadowing we're given? What's your impression of Li Qian? If you're reading a different translation or a Chinese edition, how do the excerpts above compare? Any other thoughts? (Note: these are just conversation starters. Feel free to answer all, some, or none, and to say as much or as little as you like!)

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Comments

[trobadora]

The machine translation is more readable when it is set to Chinese instead of Japanese, hahaha.

LOL!

Thank you for the version compare, that is all so fascinating! ♥

The fan translation again takes a "less Chinese" tone about the age of the campus - specifies "around 1910" instead of "during the Republic" and doesn't mention the "European concession".

I wonder if that would be done differently in a fan translation nowadays! Back then there were a lot fewer people who'd read cnovels or seen cdramas.

machine and fan translation (hereafter MT/FT) have a small conversation between Guo Changcheng and Shen Wei after the elevator starts moving again. GCC is relieved about the mundane explanation about the security guard. SW: "Did you think it was a ghost?" GCC: goes pale. Official translation (hereafter OT) possibly omitted this b/c it didn't quite fit their presentation of Xiao-Guo.

Huh, interesting! It might be a difference between Chinese versions, but I can't say I can see an obvious reason for why it'd be changed.

is he the only Xiao- on staff?

Looks like! Yeah, it does fit him. *g*

The Chinese for 'materialist'/'believes in atheism' is 讲究唯物主义' "materialism" seems closer. (And either way: yeah, Shen Wei's answer was a master class in avoiding the question. :) )

100% agreed on all counts! :D

OT is definitely better than FT at expressing THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF PINING on Shen Wei's part... it's such a lovely passage

Right? It definitely leaves an impression!

In Da Qing and Zhao Yunlan's argument about xiao-Guo being transferred in by his uncle, Da Qing has a lot more to say in FT/MT. Notably OT does not mention that Da Qing is thousands of years old, 'and you're the Guardian with the least integrity'. But FT and MT do not mention that Guo Changcheng's name appeared on the Soul-Guarding Order, and the first paragraph of the excerpt about it is not really present in FT/MT. (Censors probably wanted to make it 'not explicitly China'?)

I honestly can't make much sense of many of these changes - some can be explained by censorship, but then there are others that run completely counter to what you'd expect from a censored version, so ... *throws up hands*

the adaptation they made of the pendant for the drama was absolutely perfect.

Yes! I love it so!

I was not surprised to find 知己 - zhiji - in the original Chinese there.

I didn't look it up, but yeah, I'd have expected that, too. ♥ ♥ ♥

Canon bisexual ZYL! Who thinks Shen Wei, as an educated man, is too good for him, chaotic disaster human, but he's going to try anyways.

I like all of that a lot!