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Guardian readalong: chapters 3 & 4

Guardian novel readalong


Hi, everyone, whether you were already here last week or are just joining us now! Last week's discussion post for the prologue and chapters 1 and 2 will remain open, of course, so feel free to comment there at any time. :)

Today we're on to chapters 3 and 4.
  • Chapter 3: Shen Wei takes Zhao Yunlan, Daqing and Guo Changcheng to the admin building, where they encounter much creepiness and ghostly happenings.
  • Chapter 4: Shen Wei saves Zhao Yunlan from falling off the roof, and Zhao Yunlan questions Li Qian.

Excerpts

1) Guo Changcheng's impression of Shen Wei

For some reason, after a few steps, Guo Changcheng looked back.

Shen Wei had yet to take even a single step from the spot. He'd removed his glasses and was absentmindedly wiping them with the corner of his shirt. In the dim hallway, his shadow stretched out, long against the floor, looking lonely and dejected. The eyes that had so determinedly avoided Zhao Yunlan were now fixed on his back.

There was a dark distance in that intense gaze. His expression held both a sort of restrained yearning and an affection that was almost palpable...but at the same time, there was deep, crushing pain.

Out of nowhere, Guo Changcheng got the feeling that the man had been standing there for thousands and thousands of years.


2) The SID's history

The Soul-Guarding Order had existed since ancient times. It served to conduct Netherworld business in the mortal world, act as a medium between yin and yang, and coordinate the Three Realms. Historically, it had fallen under the Imperial History Bureau. After the People's Republic of China was founded, the Soul-Guarding Order came under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Public Security. That was when the Special Investigations Department had been established.

The current director of the Special Investigations Department, Zhao Yunlan, was also the Guardian. This Guardian was equally comfortable in the Netherworld or in banquet halls. He was talented and smooth, able to hold his alcohol and exchange cups with anyone in the Three Realms. Eating, drinking, whoring, gambling, or putting on a show-he was an expert at it all.


3) Shen Wei rescues Zhao Yunlan

Zhao Yunlan hesitated, but then, despite the fierce wind atop the tall building, he met Shen Wei's eyes and saw himself in their depths-himself and, somehow, the night sky, impossibly intermingled. For some reason, looking up into those eyes, Zhao Yunlan instinctively let go and placed everything, including his insignificant little life, in Shen Wei's hands.

He regretted it the moment he let go. Is lust rotting my brain?

In the next second, Shen Wei hauled him up by sheer force. His unimposing, scholarly appearance belied an unusually powerful grip-Zhao Yunlan's wrist was rapidly going numb, his fingers purpling. The friction pushed his sleeve up to the elbow, scraping a layer of skin from his forearm.

Then he was being held tightly in Shen Wei's arms as they both collapsed on the roof-tightly enough that his bones creaked in protest, as though Shen Wei were hugging something he'd lost long ago. A strange feeling stirred in Zhao Yunlan when he glanced at his wrist and saw the bruises from Shen Wei's hold on it.


4) Have you seen me before?

"Shen-laoshi, have you ever seen me before today?"

Surprised, Shen Wei met his gaze, mind going blank. For two full seconds, he could only stare at Zhao Yunlan, unable to look away. Finally, his throat a little dry, he said, "I... Yes. I saw you before."

Zhao Yunlan raised an eyebrow and waited for him to finish.

"I..." A conflicted expression flitted across Shen Wei's face. Just as Zhao Yunlan thought he was about to tell a fantastic story of how incredibly their lives were entangled, Shen Wei's tone lightened. "Actually, I saw your team working on a case."

Zhao Yunlan felt a sudden pang of disappointment, as though his hopes had been lifted just to be let down gently.


Questions

How are you enjoying things so far? What's your favourite line or moment in these chapters? Any particular bits that drew your attention? Any favourite worldbuilding elements or character details? Parallels or contrasts with the drama? What do you make of the hints and foreshadowing we're given? What's your impression of Li Qian? If you're reading a different translation or a Chinese edition, how do the excerpts above compare? Any other thoughts? (Note: these are just conversation starters. Feel free to answer all, some, or none, and to say as much or as little as you like!)

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amedia: Shen Wei sitting, wearing glasses, dress shirt, vest, and arm garters, with a huge book on his lap (Guardian: SW 1 book)

[personal profile] amedia 2024-11-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so fascinated with how that conversation worked itself into the drama in a completely different way, thanks to the context of the time loop.

I'm finding that this element is part of my enjoyment of the novel: finding unexpected tidbits that the drama managed to include in a different context!

The narrative voice is very fun, and I like the worldbuilding and most of the character interactions we get in these chapters.

This, too! I'm enjoying this novel for its own self, as well as in relation to the drama.

amedia was right, this bit is really good! Awww, thanks!

That's fascinating about Daqing! And of course telling about Shen Wei, but it's such a neat little detail for Daqing even apart from that. ♥

It is! I also love the fwip of his tail - nice job by the translator IMHO - and the interaction between DQ and ZYL is fantastic!

Girl after girl, each one blurry-faced and rushing as if to get to the market, appeared and then dashed to leap from the roof. Zhao Yunlan made grabs for all of them, but not a single one was corporeal.
Despite the serious subject, this is hilarious!

That's so interesting! Now that I look back on it, it IS pretty funny, especially the image of ZYL's arms closing on nothing every time. But when I was originally reading it, it seemed to me like something out of a horror movie, or a horror anime (not sure why I pictured it as anime, except maybe because of the style of the internal illustrations).

landed a barrage of "Meowvenly Meteor Paw" against Guo Changcheng's face.
I pictured this as one of those rapid-fire "thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap" thing that cats do. I'mma guess that "Meowvenly" is a valiant attempt to capture a pun that worked a lot better in Chinese.

The differences in the versions of the text are fascinating! Thanks for including the additional material.
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[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-20 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm finding that this element is part of my enjoyment of the novel: finding unexpected tidbits that the drama managed to include in a different context!

Me too! It's definitely a large part of the draw for me. :-)

But when I was originally reading it, it seemed to me like something out of a horror movie, or a horror anime

Yes, me too. I found it pretty chilling.

I pictured this as one of those rapid-fire "thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap" thing that cats do. I'mma guess that "Meowvenly" is a valiant attempt to capture a pun that worked a lot better in Chinese.

I assumed "heavenly"? And yeah, that's how I saw it, too. Hilarious! :D