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awanderingcoyote ([personal profile] awanderingcoyote) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2022-06-17 10:26 pm

Scene Discussion: Episode 2x2

I wanted to discuss two very short scenes from Episode 2 between Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei/Hei Pao Shi.  With them being soo short, I've combined them into one post.

I hope everyone enjoys!

 

Here is the nitty-gritty for each episode:

First Scene: From the 30:56 mark to the 31:18 mark

Second Scene: From 33:30 mark to the 33:05 mark

Screen captures sourced from the awesome: Guardian Episode 2 Caps 2 - Kernezelda (smugmug.com) 😊

And translations from Solo’s guardian vids 😊

Scene 1:

We start with Zhao Yunlan stepping closer to the ‘newly’ arrived Hei Pao Shi, after he’s put the other Dixingren down flat on the ground.

Hei Pao Shi profile


Zhao Yunlan: Old Bro Black.  You really came in time.

At this point Hei Pao Shi turns around to face Zhao Yunlan.  When he first turns his eyes don’t meet Zhao Yunlan’s, it’s only after a moment that he finally lifts his gaze upward.  (I find his expression here interesting here. Almost like reluctance or possibly hesitation? Perhaps a I want to look, but I don’t because my heart can’t take it.)

3 pictures Hei Pao Shi


We then have a moment where the camera is focused on Zhao Yunlan.  (His expression reads as intensely curious to my brain)  Then it’s back to Hei Pao Shi. 

Hei Pao Shi and Zhao Yunlan stare at each other

When Hei Pao Shi speaks, he looks down and says: I was careless again and arrived late.

Hei Pao Shi looks down
 

The camera angle transitions to a long shot showing both ZYL and HPS.  (I really love how it’s angled in the below shot, it’s very catchy to the eye-or at least my eye!!)

Hei Pao Shi continues to speak: Forgive me.

Hei Pao Shi and Zhao Yunlan speak

Zhao Yunlan says: No. No. No. I don’t deserve this.

Zhao Yunlan

Then Zhao Yunlan proceeds to say: All right, take him away from here. I can’t settle this. (I’m still reading HPS’ expression here as tentative or fragile, something!! I cannot find the right words tonight XD)

Hei Pao Shi and Zhao Yunlan continue to tak
 

At this point HPS steps away and back over to the other Dixingren, all the while as Zhao Yunlan watches him.

/End
 

Scene 2:

<b>CW:</b> Death of a beloved family member/grief/cemeteries.

Professor Shen and the SID Team are at the cemetery to support Li Qian. Eventually, Zhao Yunlan steps away to lean against a nearby tree, and not long after Shen Wei follows.  As the Professor arrives Zhao Yunlan unwraps a lollipop the he had pulled from his jacket pocket.
Zhao Yunlan leans against a tree
 

When Shen Wei arrives ZYL looks up and SW gives a small smile before it transitions into a long shot. (I know I’ve said it before but they’ve really set up some lovely lovely shots throughout this whole show).  In the background you can see the rest of the SID crew that came along still surround LQ.

Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan stand together

Shen Wei gazes at the group whereas Zhao Yunlan stays focused on the lollipop.  Finally, as the camera focuses over Shen Wei’s shoulder, Shen Wei begins to speak: Since Li Qian’s grandmother’s funeral (the camera shifts to SW’s face) the Dixing person hasn’t appeared again.  (Zhao Yunlan’s expression is very somber and said – rightly so in this situation – but having watched the whole series it makes me think he’s thinking about his mom and such.)

Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan speak
 

The shot changes again to show a more full body angle of the two and Zhao Yunlan looks away, saying as he does: Guo Changcheng, that blabbermouth. Why is he telling you everything? (Did he though? LOL. Or is it because SW IS HPS XD XD.  But poor GCC getting the blame for it all.)

It shifts back to Shen Wei who says: I really want to know why these people choose this time to reappear.
Shen Wei looks pensive

 At this, Zhao Yunlan (who was looking off into the distance) turns his attention back to Shen Wei.

 

When Zhao Yunlan speaks, the camera angel turns back to looking over Shen Wei’s shoulder.  (To note, before ZYL speaks he stares at SW for a hot few seconds, then looks away, and takes a moment to take the lollipop out of his mouth.  My brain interrupted this as ZYL considering just how much to say to Shen Wei.>

 

Zhao Yunlan says: I think there’s a problem somewhere as well.

Pensive Zhao Yunlan

Scene 1 Thoughts/Questions:

  1. At the end of the scene either the music makes it sound like a crow is cawing, or they added the sound effect in there, or I’m crazy, but my ears hear a crow caw of some sort!!! Which if it is a crow caw, I think is possibly a precursor to Ya Qing showing up? (I can’t recall what episode she showed up, so I could totally be wrong!)
  2. How does everyone read Zhao Yunlan and Hei Pao Shi’s expressions in the first few minutes of their conversation?  I definitely read ZYL as SUPER curious.  Like: let me watch everything he does, because I want to know MOAR about this cloaked man whereas HPS’ look is much tentative. I still don’t know what word I really want to use. Pining-ish? Or possibly uncertain/scared, or a combination of them.   My brain interprets it as ‘I cannot look, but I have to look, but I cannot because <b>reasons</b>’ and that’s the best way I can summarize it LOL.
  3. What thoughts do you think are going through Shen Wei’s head? I am super curious what people think he’s thinking (along with how to read his expression!!)

Scene 2 Thoughts/Questions:

  1. What thoughts do you think both Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan are having as they tiptoe around the elephant in the room?  The elephant being: SW is HPS and KNOWS things and ZYL isn’t quite sure who SW is and how much he can possibly trust him.
  2. An interesting thing to note in this scene is there’s absolutely no background music, which I think brings another level of seriousness to it.  All you can hear is the typical background noises one might hear, like birds chirping, etc.
  3. I think it’s very interesting to see Zhao Yunlan’s expression stay rock solid somber – which is obviously warranted! – but it likewise lends an air of sadness to it all.
  4. Finally, do you think Shen Wei doesn’t know what/who is causing the problem and playing dumb to see what Zhao Yunlan and SID know, or does he perhaps not realize (at this point) who’s stirring the pot? 

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I look forward to people’s points and discussions on these two clips from the second episode :D

china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2022-06-23 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
(Isn't it because Shen Wei was in the car when it started?)
Edited 2022-06-23 21:44 (UTC)
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[personal profile] trobadora 2022-06-23 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Duh! Sorry, that was amazingly forgetful of me. It's the same scene! /o\
china_shop: A waist-down icon: a pair of legs slouching against a tree, feet in boots; another pair of legs, facing them, standing upright. Each pair has one knee bent towards the other. (Guardian - SW/ZYL legs)

[personal profile] china_shop 2022-06-23 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just glad I'm not the only one who does that. <3

Btw, this:

how can the Envoy always know where to appear?

makes me wonder if that's part of Shen Wei's motivation for cosying up to the SID. Keeping tabs on cases, knowing when things are likely to go down... ?
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - wait)

[personal profile] trobadora 2022-06-23 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think there's definitely an aspect of that! Things are happening, he doesn't know what's behind it, and he can't be everywhere at once. It's only sensible. (And also a good excuse for getting close to ZYL, despite not knowing what's safest to do with regard to the time loop. ZYL isn't the only one with good excuses! *g*)
miss_ingno: Zhao Yunlan with his chin propped on his hand, lollipop sticking from his mouth as he looks up from under his fringe (Zhao Yunlan)

[personal profile] miss_ingno 2022-06-27 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
tbf how can the Envoy always know where to appear? is definitely a question ZYL would ask himself :') especially in these first few encounters where they're still working out their dynamic and boundaries, when and why the Envoy shows up is critical information for ZYL (as in: how much can he rely on the Envoy showing up when he needs him vs interference with the SID)