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Guardian Episode by Episode: 35
Welcome to the rewatchalong! This week we watch episode 35. The Imgur screencap album has 75 images. A day early due to commitments elsewhere all weekend – for as they say, have space WIP, will travel.
Previously on:
Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3, Episode 4, Episode 5
Episode 6, Episode 7, Episode 8, Episode 9, Episode 10
Episode 11, Episode 12, Episode 13, Episode 14, Episode 15
Episode 16, Episode 17, Episode 18, Episode 19, Episode 20
Episode 21, Episode 22, Episode 23, Episode 24, Episode 25
Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 28, Episode 29, Episode 30
Episode 31, Episode 32, Episode 33, Episode 34
This week, Zhao Yunlan completes his time travel adventure and we exit YOHE.
Characterization
Shen Wei (baby edition) is willing to talk about his backstory! He reveals that his surname is Shen 沈 and his people "used to call him Wéi 嵬" because he came from the mountains. (嵬 means "rocky" and has the mountain radical.) When "Kunlun" renames him to Wēi 巍 ("lofty"), he says he's happy with the name because Kunlun gave it to him. (I ... am a bit conflicted on this – on the one hand, Zhao Yunlan just went "I don't like your name so I'm going to give you a new one"; on the other, Shen Wei doesn't seem to have liked his prior appellation that much, as evidenced by him being called the Black-Cloaked Envoy instead of insisting on being called Shen Wéi, plus the Chinese tradition of courtesy names.)
Zhao Yunlan should've called him Wěi 韡 "gorgeous" instead.
As for the actual backstory, well, first his parents died when he was young, then he left elsewhere with his brother in search of better fortunes, and only then did the meteor hit when Shen Wei and Ye Zun were already orphaned. Then he failed at protecting the little brother he'd always sworn to protect and his protection complex identified. Then he finally meets the only person who's ever been genuinely interested in him as a person, and very soon that person is pulled away from him to the skies. The same day, he discovers the little brother he thought was dead, only for the little brother to try to kill him and then be entombed under the earth. At that, he tries to dramatically commit suicide but wakes up 10 000 years later to a completely changed world he has to adapt to. I'm pretty sure he qualifies for a woobie-off.
"Dear Fate: Why do you suck so much? Love, Shen Wei."
Shen Wei says that after the meteor crashed and resources grew scarce, attitudes changed, and many grew used to it, but he didn't want to be like them. Given this and some other mentioned things, I suspect what he means is that the humans and Yashou became colossally racist (or, at minimum, species-based hostilities), and Shen Wei's trying to both reject the encroachement of racist sentiment and try to be the "good Dixingian" to whom the negative stereotypes don't apply. Hence the running around stopping the bad guys wherever they went.
"It's true, doctor. I- I do have a vigilantism addiction."
When Shen Wei first wakes up, he treats the Regent in a way that seems a bit naïve and in general shows that he's uninterested in power. Then he decides that he absolutely must go upstairs to make sure no Dixingians misuse their powers (one assumes he was given a brief briefing on the whole "Do humans remember we exist?" thing by Ding Dun while he was being brought down) and search outKunlun the Hallows. In an interesting characterization take, his new mask is patterned off Ye Zun's one; he goes to show it and his new outfit to an empillared Ye Zun, then gets a haircut and goes to stop crime in Haixing.
His first paycheck only covered the robes and the mask but not the barber.
Zhao Yunlan came up with the whole "towering mountain ranges that reach to the sea" speech on the spot! (Unless it's a quote from some classic of literature that's yet to be written in YOHE?) He's smart, and good at improvising. He also spends a lot of this episode reassuring Shen Wei past and present – he reassures Shen Wei that it's not his fault should Kunlun leave someday, he reassures that they'll meet again, he says that Shen Wei isn't fighting alone, he tells Shen Wei not to regret the choices he makes, whatever they may be, when Shen Wei is placed in the tough situation of having to fight against his identical twin. And then in the present, when Shen Wei is regretting the choices he made re: Ye Zun and wishing he'd been tougher, Zhao Yunlan tells him to stop. Shen Wei is a man, not a knife, and then he delivers the brainweasel-destroying coup de grace: Ye Zun was spared not by Shen Wei but by the heavens (so Shen Wei isn't at fault), and adds that the heavens can be defied (so Shen Wei can too kill Ye Zun).
In his eyes, Zhao Yunlan's precious professor can do no wrong.
We also see baby Ye Zun this episode! He managed to steal the Hallows all by himself despite the lack of powers, and returned to his abuser with them. It's painful to watch how he gets kicked down and disparaged and habitually mind controlled. The Rebel Leader claims Ye Zun would've died in the wilderness had he not taken him in. It's ... no wonder Ye Zun is screwed up. And the Rebel Leader redirected all of Ye Zun's justified anger onto Shen Wei; the consequence of that is that Ye Zun is actually so angry he breaks out of the mind control to declare that only he can kill Shen Wei. Then he gets his Dixing powers in extremis when the Rebel Leader tries to choke him. (I actually wonder whether the powers were affected by the situation he gained them in – he was trying to breathe and then sort-of inhaled the Rebel Leader, and likely was very hungry so ate him.) While Shen Wei was learning that he wasn't a knife, Ye Zun learned that if he was a sharp enough knife, no-one would want to punch him.
Child Protective Services should've been called long ago, but alas, the meteor caused some budget cuts.
More of Ye Zun's gege issues: after he sees Shen Wei cry after Kunlun, he says aloud that others come before him in gege's heart, then thinks that in his heart, others are but dust compared to gege. Had he said both parts out loud, loud enough that Shen Wei could hear, the timeline likely would've been much different. His conflicted attitude towards Shen Wei is also shown in how he claims to have kept Shen Wei alive with his powers (and the Hallows didn't do it). Verbally he still grinds that axe and when Shen Wei states he's going to Haixing, Ye Zun says that he and Shen Wei will both die alone (with the subtext: I will punish you for abandoning me). I understand his huge communications issues, but I wish he didn't have them, because a happy ending would be in sight easily.
Alas, Ye Zun has just acquired his Dixing powers and just wants to do a dark energy kaboom. With Shen Wei as the fuel.
As the new leader of the rebels, we see Ye Zun 1. walk around with the Hallows, and 2. fight to get them back. The only person we actually see him kill is his longterm abuser. For that, the Hallows lock him up for what was intended to be the lifetime of the planet, WTF. There are so many more humane and ethical ways to deal with him! Depower him, or force him to reconcile with his brother, or even outright kill him, none of this tens of millennia of sensory deprivation.
An accurate representation of an appropriate reaction to the Hallows.
Let's talk about the Treaty! It wasn't signed by Shen Wei, but rather by some lackey on his behalf. The scene of the signing also came across as very "We gave you all these concessions already, just sign it and gtfo already" on Ma Gui and Fu You's parts. They were also the only ones to bring up Dixingians going back to a Dixing that had already been mentioned as being destroyed, and there was other sort of hinky stuff with the Alliance, too, like Shen Wei definitely not being an equal partner in the strategy and his Dixingians suffering huge losses (3k to a handful).
Notes on the timeline: Shen Wei woke up after the Hallows scattered (the Awl was present for the Hanga arc 100 years ago, which is ... a datapoint), but he went back to Haixing pretty much immediately, and that Haixing looked very modern – definitely not 1918! If we assume that the Hallows left one at a time and then the Regent dallied until the effects were clear, then it perhaps makes sense. As we're told that Shen Wei sent out an expedition to seek out the Hallows 20 years ago, perhaps this is Haixing of c. 1998; the legend of the Black-Cloaked Envoy is very active even before his reawakening, and I could see the Regent granting a request for an expedition to Haixing to find the Hallows, headed by the Black-Cloaked Envoy, and then suggest people he knows would cause trouble, just so that the Envoy's authority would be shaken.
"I believe all politicians wholeheartedly. Please take good care of my reputation, Mr. Regent."
Canon details
Cinematography
Lots of occasions of a tilted camera angle signifying a sudden change in the framed character's world!
There was also some effective usage of shots from afar and through slightly muddied bush for Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan's cliffside conversation:
Oh, and some Da Qing. He looks much better in his YOHE clothes than his modern-day ones. The memory loss must've interfered with his sense of style.
Shen Wei Ye Zun shoe watch
White with mud on them.
He has yet to acquire a power that'd let him keep his whites white.
Zhao Yunlan jacket watch
Kunlun robes and the brown trenchcoat – note that it's not the same jacket he wore when he started his trip to the past!
The Hallows have Opinions on clothes, it seems.
Did Shen Wei take off his glasses?
Zhao Yunlan took his mask off for him, then he removed it when meeting Ye Zun, and was buried in the ground without it. In fact, he had to get a new mask.
"Maybe if I take off my mask, my brother will recognize me and stop trying to murder me?"
Previously on:
Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3, Episode 4, Episode 5
Episode 6, Episode 7, Episode 8, Episode 9, Episode 10
Episode 11, Episode 12, Episode 13, Episode 14, Episode 15
Episode 16, Episode 17, Episode 18, Episode 19, Episode 20
Episode 21, Episode 22, Episode 23, Episode 24, Episode 25
Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 28, Episode 29, Episode 30
Episode 31, Episode 32, Episode 33, Episode 34
This week, Zhao Yunlan completes his time travel adventure and we exit YOHE.
Characterization
Shen Wei (baby edition) is willing to talk about his backstory! He reveals that his surname is Shen 沈 and his people "used to call him Wéi 嵬" because he came from the mountains. (嵬 means "rocky" and has the mountain radical.) When "Kunlun" renames him to Wēi 巍 ("lofty"), he says he's happy with the name because Kunlun gave it to him. (I ... am a bit conflicted on this – on the one hand, Zhao Yunlan just went "I don't like your name so I'm going to give you a new one"; on the other, Shen Wei doesn't seem to have liked his prior appellation that much, as evidenced by him being called the Black-Cloaked Envoy instead of insisting on being called Shen Wéi, plus the Chinese tradition of courtesy names.)
Zhao Yunlan should've called him Wěi 韡 "gorgeous" instead.
As for the actual backstory, well, first his parents died when he was young, then he left elsewhere with his brother in search of better fortunes, and only then did the meteor hit when Shen Wei and Ye Zun were already orphaned. Then he failed at protecting the little brother he'd always sworn to protect and his protection complex identified. Then he finally meets the only person who's ever been genuinely interested in him as a person, and very soon that person is pulled away from him to the skies. The same day, he discovers the little brother he thought was dead, only for the little brother to try to kill him and then be entombed under the earth. At that, he tries to dramatically commit suicide but wakes up 10 000 years later to a completely changed world he has to adapt to. I'm pretty sure he qualifies for a woobie-off.
"Dear Fate: Why do you suck so much? Love, Shen Wei."
Shen Wei says that after the meteor crashed and resources grew scarce, attitudes changed, and many grew used to it, but he didn't want to be like them. Given this and some other mentioned things, I suspect what he means is that the humans and Yashou became colossally racist (or, at minimum, species-based hostilities), and Shen Wei's trying to both reject the encroachement of racist sentiment and try to be the "good Dixingian" to whom the negative stereotypes don't apply. Hence the running around stopping the bad guys wherever they went.
"It's true, doctor. I- I do have a vigilantism addiction."
When Shen Wei first wakes up, he treats the Regent in a way that seems a bit naïve and in general shows that he's uninterested in power. Then he decides that he absolutely must go upstairs to make sure no Dixingians misuse their powers (one assumes he was given a brief briefing on the whole "Do humans remember we exist?" thing by Ding Dun while he was being brought down) and search out
His first paycheck only covered the robes and the mask but not the barber.
Zhao Yunlan came up with the whole "towering mountain ranges that reach to the sea" speech on the spot! (Unless it's a quote from some classic of literature that's yet to be written in YOHE?) He's smart, and good at improvising. He also spends a lot of this episode reassuring Shen Wei past and present – he reassures Shen Wei that it's not his fault should Kunlun leave someday, he reassures that they'll meet again, he says that Shen Wei isn't fighting alone, he tells Shen Wei not to regret the choices he makes, whatever they may be, when Shen Wei is placed in the tough situation of having to fight against his identical twin. And then in the present, when Shen Wei is regretting the choices he made re: Ye Zun and wishing he'd been tougher, Zhao Yunlan tells him to stop. Shen Wei is a man, not a knife, and then he delivers the brainweasel-destroying coup de grace: Ye Zun was spared not by Shen Wei but by the heavens (so Shen Wei isn't at fault), and adds that the heavens can be defied (so Shen Wei can too kill Ye Zun).
In his eyes, Zhao Yunlan's precious professor can do no wrong.
We also see baby Ye Zun this episode! He managed to steal the Hallows all by himself despite the lack of powers, and returned to his abuser with them. It's painful to watch how he gets kicked down and disparaged and habitually mind controlled. The Rebel Leader claims Ye Zun would've died in the wilderness had he not taken him in. It's ... no wonder Ye Zun is screwed up. And the Rebel Leader redirected all of Ye Zun's justified anger onto Shen Wei; the consequence of that is that Ye Zun is actually so angry he breaks out of the mind control to declare that only he can kill Shen Wei. Then he gets his Dixing powers in extremis when the Rebel Leader tries to choke him. (I actually wonder whether the powers were affected by the situation he gained them in – he was trying to breathe and then sort-of inhaled the Rebel Leader, and likely was very hungry so ate him.) While Shen Wei was learning that he wasn't a knife, Ye Zun learned that if he was a sharp enough knife, no-one would want to punch him.
Child Protective Services should've been called long ago, but alas, the meteor caused some budget cuts.
More of Ye Zun's gege issues: after he sees Shen Wei cry after Kunlun, he says aloud that others come before him in gege's heart, then thinks that in his heart, others are but dust compared to gege. Had he said both parts out loud, loud enough that Shen Wei could hear, the timeline likely would've been much different. His conflicted attitude towards Shen Wei is also shown in how he claims to have kept Shen Wei alive with his powers (and the Hallows didn't do it). Verbally he still grinds that axe and when Shen Wei states he's going to Haixing, Ye Zun says that he and Shen Wei will both die alone (with the subtext: I will punish you for abandoning me). I understand his huge communications issues, but I wish he didn't have them, because a happy ending would be in sight easily.
Alas, Ye Zun has just acquired his Dixing powers and just wants to do a dark energy kaboom. With Shen Wei as the fuel.
As the new leader of the rebels, we see Ye Zun 1. walk around with the Hallows, and 2. fight to get them back. The only person we actually see him kill is his longterm abuser. For that, the Hallows lock him up for what was intended to be the lifetime of the planet, WTF. There are so many more humane and ethical ways to deal with him! Depower him, or force him to reconcile with his brother, or even outright kill him, none of this tens of millennia of sensory deprivation.
An accurate representation of an appropriate reaction to the Hallows.
Let's talk about the Treaty! It wasn't signed by Shen Wei, but rather by some lackey on his behalf. The scene of the signing also came across as very "We gave you all these concessions already, just sign it and gtfo already" on Ma Gui and Fu You's parts. They were also the only ones to bring up Dixingians going back to a Dixing that had already been mentioned as being destroyed, and there was other sort of hinky stuff with the Alliance, too, like Shen Wei definitely not being an equal partner in the strategy and his Dixingians suffering huge losses (3k to a handful).
Notes on the timeline: Shen Wei woke up after the Hallows scattered (the Awl was present for the Hanga arc 100 years ago, which is ... a datapoint), but he went back to Haixing pretty much immediately, and that Haixing looked very modern – definitely not 1918! If we assume that the Hallows left one at a time and then the Regent dallied until the effects were clear, then it perhaps makes sense. As we're told that Shen Wei sent out an expedition to seek out the Hallows 20 years ago, perhaps this is Haixing of c. 1998; the legend of the Black-Cloaked Envoy is very active even before his reawakening, and I could see the Regent granting a request for an expedition to Haixing to find the Hallows, headed by the Black-Cloaked Envoy, and then suggest people he knows would cause trouble, just so that the Envoy's authority would be shaken.
"I believe all politicians wholeheartedly. Please take good care of my reputation, Mr. Regent."
Canon details
- Dixingians lived in Haixing for generations before the meteor
- The seal holding Ye Zun in place needs the Hallows to work
- Dragon City is in the meteor crater
- After the Hallows scattered, Dixing's energy depleted
- The legend of the Black-Cloaked Envoy was that he worked to make Dixing habitable again, but even before he awoke, there were disbelievers (like the Attendant)
- Da Qing got round 1 of memory loss when Ye Zun thwapped him with dark energy
Cinematography
Lots of occasions of a tilted camera angle signifying a sudden change in the framed character's world!
There was also some effective usage of shots from afar and through slightly muddied bush for Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan's cliffside conversation:
Oh, and some Da Qing. He looks much better in his YOHE clothes than his modern-day ones. The memory loss must've interfered with his sense of style.
White with mud on them.
He has yet to acquire a power that'd let him keep his whites white.
Zhao Yunlan jacket watch
Kunlun robes and the brown trenchcoat – note that it's not the same jacket he wore when he started his trip to the past!
The Hallows have Opinions on clothes, it seems.
Did Shen Wei take off his glasses?
Zhao Yunlan took his mask off for him, then he removed it when meeting Ye Zun, and was buried in the ground without it. In fact, he had to get a new mask.
"Maybe if I take off my mask, my brother will recognize me and stop trying to murder me?"
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I am always amused by the 'Black-Cloaked Envoy vs. Dixing Purse-Snatchers' scene - so Shen Wei shows up, stops the purse-snatchers, and takes them and the purse to Dixing so the lady never gets her stuff back. Good job! (/golf clap) I give it 4/10 for enthusiasm without effectiveness.
Shen Wei's very first yelling at the pillar is adorable. (With many repetitions to come! Oh, if only they could talk during one of them...)
Ye Zun, honey, murder is not a great way to get your brother to apologize. Maybe yell at him a bit first, and not in that passive-aggressive 'You know what you did!' way but, like, actual conflict resolution?? Just a thought.
Oh, no, the treaty. Fanon has diverged so far from canon on that that I've thrown up my hands and given up.
The Hallows timeline is imo the biggest incongruity in the show. No matter how you reconcile it, there's got to be a fair amount of handwaving, because 'the Awl got stolen a hundred years ago' and 'the Hallows were stolen maybe thirty years ago' are never going to add up. Mostly I go Doylist on that one, because none of the Watsonian explanations make any sense to me. How long has Shen Wei been awake? Who the fuck knows? The Regent and Deacon hadn't aged in a hundred years from the CSZ flashbacks so it could be anything up to when the Awl disappeared.
The wormhole clothing changes are a minor but amusing incongruity: ZYL doesn't lose his old clothes when he goes to the past but apparently the Hallows raid his closet to make sure he's dressed appropriately when he comes back. How? Why? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Oops! I suppose our baby Envoy was still learning how to do this vigilante thing?
Yes! Air your grievances, Ye Zun!
The Treaty is ... we only get a little bit on it, but it's definitely not egalitarian (Dixing is very much a junior party despite the concessions), yet it's not supposed to be punitive either, as it's tied with the Dixingian faction in the Alliance, not the Rebels they defeated.
LOL! :D I admit I mostly handwave this by saying time works differently in Dixing. And the Hallows can time travel; maybe the Awl really wanted to participate in the downfall of the Hanga tribe?
And it's a different jacket to the one he wore going in! But the jacket he wore going in is still in his closet, c.f. the next episodes. IDK either.
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Indeed, and it's adorable! But somehow I suspect that wasn't what the writers wanted their audience to take away from that scene. 😂
The Treaty is ... we only get a little bit on it, but it's definitely not egalitarian (Dixing is very much a junior party despite the concessions), yet it's not supposed to be punitive either, as it's tied with the Dixingian faction in the Alliance, not the Rebels they defeated.
Well, if you find anything relevant I haven't already tossed in my timestamps on the subject, please let me know; I'm always looking for more nuance on the matter.
I admit I mostly handwave this by saying time works differently in Dixing.
That is a valid reading of the canon, particularly considering how 'Time doesn't exist in Dixing'! It just makes my head hurt to consider how entropy, etc., would work in that situation so I ... don't, lol. (Does caesium-133 vibrate differently there or something?)
And it's a different jacket to the one he wore going in! But the jacket he wore going in is still in his closet, c.f. the next episodes. IDK either.
The mountain cliff where everything happens is a reasonable distance into the mountains from Dragon City (going by the Hanga arc), so the wormhole can warp both space and time -- when in doubt, I blame the Hallows and their sentient-but-not-in-a-human-way weirdness. Maybe they really liked that jacket? 😜
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Will do!
Uh... Dark energy affects the vibrations of cesium-133? *waves hands in physicist*
The Hallows have style advice, but Zhao Yunlan foolishly doesn't follow it and puts the dark blue one on instead. Perhaps if he'd worn the brown one, they'd all have made it?
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Yeah, I think that really matters - Zhao Yunlan isn't replacing a name that's actually used.
I suspect what he means is that the humans and Yashou became colossally racist (or, at minimum, species-based hostilities), and Shen Wei's trying to both reject the encroachement of racist sentiment and try to be the "good Dixingian" to whom the negative stereotypes don't apply. Hence the running around stopping the bad guys wherever they went.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.
When Shen Wei first wakes up, he treats the Regent in a way that seems a bit naïve and in general shows that he's uninterested in power.
I thought he was very deliberately trying not to step on the toes of the current administration, and getting himself out of the way - everything he says and does seems geared towards soothing worries that this 10,000-year-old legend that just popped back up is expecting to step right back into the leadership role he once had. Which I thought was a sensible thing to do, even if the Regent turned out to be a giant douchebag.
Oh, and some Da Qing. He looks much better in his YOHE clothes than his modern-day ones.
I like him in his modern clothes, but his YOHE look is proof once again that almost every man looks better with long hair. *g*
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He was, but he was doing it a bit – I'd call it clumsy, in comparison to the present-day Shen Wei. He's a bit naïve and trusting and not poking to see what Dixing is really like nowadays; he just decamps to the surface without so much as an "It'd be lovely to see what Dixing is like nowadays! Could you organize a tour?" A sensible thing to do, yes, but I'd have hoped for at least a cursory "is Dixing a shithole now?" check.
Co-signed.
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I can barely handle the name-bestowing in canon, but whenever it comes up in fic, I cringe. It feels so disrespectful to me.
I agree that Da Qing looks pretty damn good in his YOHE outfit.
I don't bother anymore with the timeline/timetravel inconsistencies. :/ Handwaving, more handwaving, oooh Shen Wei shiny. Give me more Shen Wei.
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Same. Especially when fic alters the scenario so it becomes even more squicky to me.
A shiny Shen Wei with sparkles would be nice! (Full-on romance manga sparkles and rose petals! Show that Zhao Yunlan POV!)
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How old do we think Shen Wei is here? Mid-20s? (I was gonna say I resist late-teens because of casting + timeline, but then remembered this is a show that told me an approx-8-year-old is 15, so maybe Shen Wei's meant to be 8 in this...)
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Yeah, Zhao Yunlan is ... awfully pushy. I don't like it. Listen to his dreams before you quash them, at the very least!
18-ish to me. My point of reference is 15/16-year-olds who've moved away from home for high school: in comparison, Shen Wei clearly has a bit more life experience under his belt, but he's still very very young-seeming. I'm pegging him as 18-ish mainly because he's clearly postpubescent and is an esteemed general. OTOH, he's the junior partner in the Alliance, so he's clearly much younger than Ma Gui and Fu You, and in a nonvisual medium I could probably buy 17 or even 16. 25 feels too old for him, based on his reactions to everything Zhao Yunlan. Plus if it's 18 then we get to imagine horny teenager Ye Zun who's just reawoken after his empillarment, going out to seduce Zhao Yunlan! :P
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This is a great sentence, just needed to point that out.
The fact that Dixing got screwed over by the treaty after Shen Wei got put down for his dirt nap is so so so awful. It's one of those things I want to be like LOOK HOW AWFUL bc I feel like the show doesn't really point it out very obviously? They lost so much, already, and now that? UGH. Makes it hard for me to feel too bad for Ma Gui and Fu You's thwarted love.
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I admit I have zero interest in any "man pines for woman" plotline ever, so I was already uninterested, but seriously. Though now I'm wondering about Zhang Shi's role in all this - orphan Ma Gui took in before discovering he was from Dixing? IIRC Zhang Shi was a bit after Shen Wei's time.
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Zhang Shi creeps me tf out tbh.
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I do like Da Qing's YOHE look better,lol.
Ye Zun's scenes when the rebel chief hurts him-grrr-made me so pissed off, like who does he think he is? >:( But he got back at the chief good even though he turned into a sniffandkill kinda guy.
How do you caption these pictures so humorously,I almost forget all the terrible things that are about to happen! XD
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'Tis a talent carefully cherished! Developed, perhaps, by reading Douglas Adams at a formative age?
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So when ZYL meets Baby Shen Wei and gets told a different name, it's no surprise to me that ZYL suggests the name his Shen Wei already goes by in the future. Kinda going with the time-travel causality or something?
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Huh. Given he's starting to get the same Hallows special effects as Ye Zun started out with before he fell, and given that he clutches at his chest like something's caught him, I feel it's pretty clear the Hallows are affecting Shen Wei, whether because he's standing in Ye Zun's blast radius (which could be what Ye Zun's referring to with his whole "I saved you" schtick), or because the Hallows specifically intended to nab Shen Wei too. There's clearly a moment when he chooses to give into it gracefully (read: dramatically), yes, and things he says "later" (earlier in the show's timeline) indicate he didn't expect to survive that, but I think it's clear he was getting pulled down, willing or not. It just seems odd to me when it's phrased as though he could have done anything else.
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