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ExtraPenguin ([personal profile] extrapenguin) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2019-04-17 08:31 pm

Guardian Episode by Episode: 09

Welcome to episode 9 of the Guardian rewatchalong! Due to Easter, this one is early and the next one will be late (~Saturday). The imgur screencap album has 75 images.

Previously on:
Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3, Episode 4, Episode 5, Episode 6, Episode 7, Episode 8

This week, we start the Hanga arc properly, and drive to the mountains. We end with Wang Zheng walking into the cave.

Introductions
In flashbacks, we get our first glimpses of Zhao Yunlan's parents and Wang Zheng's fiancé (husband?).


Zhao Xinci, shooting the gun. Shen Xi, being held hostage and then dying.



Sang Zan, introduced as the Patriarch, bewitched by the daughter of the previous Patriarch.


Characterization
A bunch of interesting stuff!

We see Zhao Yunlan be a responsible team leader who brings them all on a road trip for Wang Zheng's personal mission, and doesn't press her to tell too much (just like he later won't press Shen Wei too much). He's also genuinely sorry for her about the sex doll Guo Changcheng purchased.

On the road, when he discovered the suspicious Professor Shen (who had taken up an interest in ... archaeology???), he very successfully got all the information out of Jiajia while Shen Wei facepalmed in the background, then got Shen Wei and his students into the SID convoy with his manipulation skills and charmed Shen Wei's students. Shen Wei never stood a chance.


When in doubt, ask the children.


He also says one very thematic thing to Shen Wei: "Our destination is the same, would it not be better if we could look after each other?" Like episode 3's case, this line encapsulates a thing about their relationship. Cat and mouse has partially turned into seduction, and this is Zhao Yunlan seducing Shen Wei into becoming a consultant for the SID.

We get more about Zhao Yunlan's backstory here – when he's shooting the Dixing Revolver, he gets a flashback to his mom dying and loses his nerve, either as nerve-losing (or "What if I shoot at these evil things in between my people and me and my people die like my mom did?"), or being distracted by the flashback.

There's two pieces of interaction between Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan I'd like to highlight. The first one is when Zhao Yunlan walks up the slope and interrupts Shen Wei's usage of dark energy to peek, then fusses over him and gives him his jacket. Shen Wei protests, but later puts the jacket on properly and doesn't take it off. He's also very visibly shocked at someone taking care of him, and extremely touched.


Shen Wei's beating heart is not staying still.


The other is when the village leader comes to apologize for the attempted spooking. Zhao Yunlan says a few very plain words then lets the weight of his disapproving gaze do the rest, and Shen Wei joins in with more condemnation. Teamwork!


"We are both very disappointed in you."


Another relationship we see here is Zhu Hong taking care of Wang Zheng. She practices her hypnotism to make the delivery guy forget he brought the package – and then declares she'll take care of Wang Zheng, dresses her in a way so that she doesn't have to use the sex doll as a transport device, and holds on to her during the way to the hotel.


Hold on to the energy being so she doesn't float off!


We also see Zhu Hong grab the gun from Zhao Yunlan's hands and shoot when he is frozen in place by the flashback.

Wang Zheng is sad at the SID office, is sad in a car, and then does Hanga-style prayer for the dead in the village yard. When the ghosts come, she (accurately) says that they're out for her, and wishes to sacrifice herself to atone for her mistakes. Then she goes out to the cave – I wonder how she knew the cave was significant; did it call out to her, or do we see it in the flashbacks?


Wang Zheng does things, goes off to disappear into the mountain.


Guo Changcheng is this episode's butt monkey. First he screws up by buying Wang Zheng a sex doll (though I wonder why the doll thing didn't go to puppetmaster Chu – office politics?), then he spends the entire car ride being sick and having his snacks stolen, and finally he discovers his true calling of "alarm siren".


Meanwhile, Lin Jing wonders why he drew the short straw in car allocations.


For a moment I thought Zhu Jiu had in a fit of jealousy acquired his own bush friend, but it turned out he was only using it to spy on xiao-Quan pissing. He's also recruited the Hanga slaves' ghosts and the ghost-beasts to go after Wang Zheng to get at the Mountain-river Awl.


Zhu Jiu has zero plant friends. His only friends are the ghosts and ghost beasts.


Canon notes
  • Based on some of Shen Wei's comments, his teleportation has a distance limit, since he noted that if trouble struck in Dragon City while he was in the Northwest, he wouldn't be able to help. (There goes the plan to turn him into an environmentally friendly alternative to budget airlines...)
  • Chu Shuzhi can drive a car. Despite the copious switching around of drivers, we never see Shen Wei drive a car.
  • Shen Wei visited a hairdresser (see evidence below), decided he didn't like it, and banished the hairstyle before he next appears on screen, never to be seen again.
  • The Hallows seem to be giving Zhao Yunlan colds?
  • Dragon City has long roots, and has been there for hundreds of years. Perhaps even before the Hanga tribe formed?
  • Either the SID or Guo Changcheng now owns a sex doll.


Cinematography
Please notice how Zhao Yunlan stands on the downslope side for this whole conversation:


This one is just beautiful. The mist is very nice.



Zhao Yunlan watches Shen Wei listen to the Hanga story.



This is also a nice shot – I like the diagonal.



The lab around the Hallows has some very odd lighting.



Obligatory shot through framing device.


Zhao Yunlan jacket watch
He starts off in the same denim jacket we saw him in last episode, then sets out in a North Face jacket he gives to Shen Wei, under which is another under-jacket. Bonus: Shen Wei in Zhao Yunlan's jacket, looking happy.



Shen Wei shoe watch
No clear shots of the shoes.

Did Shen Wei take off his glasses?
Yes, when at home with his ridiculous hairstyle.
green: (guardian: WOW)

[personal profile] green 2019-04-17 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
\o/

I love love love Shen Wei's surprise over Zhao Yunlan fussing over him. It is the BEST.
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[personal profile] green 2019-04-17 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
<33333

MY HEART
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[personal profile] teaotter 2019-04-17 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Does Shen Wei also have a bear skull in his apartment? (In the background of the "framing device" shot, bottom shelf in the corner.)

Sorry, I just did a picspam for Zhao Yunlan's apartment and have been trying to talk myself out of doing one for Shen Wei!
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[personal profile] mecurtin 2019-04-17 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
YES! It is the same bear skull, obvs, but WHY did they use it in both sets?

PS Please succumb, covering both his apartment and his office.
Edited 2019-04-17 18:01 (UTC)
lynndyre: Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan, over Dragon City (guardian city)

[personal profile] lynndyre 2019-04-17 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I also love the bit with the water- Student hands water to Shen Wei, Shen Wei opens the bottle and hands it to Zhao Yunlan, Zhao Yunlan drinks it.
Like. You are not even dating yet. XD

The pillar in the cave is supposed to be right under where Wang Zheng was originally buried, right? But the ground levels have shifted with earthquakes? Maybe she's going back to her grave, or to where she first woke up and ZYL and Da Qing found her?

I really love some of the cinematography here. There are so many gorgeous shots.

Please notice how Zhao Yunlan stands on the downslope side for this whole conversation
this is because Zhao Yunlan, unlike other ZYLs I could name, does not have a height complex :D
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[personal profile] clevermanka 2019-04-17 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
God I loved it when Zhu Hong shot the gun. SO GOOD. And that hairstyle was Really The Worst, agreed.
mecurtin: Zhao Yunlan is pointing at YOU. (ZYL chooses you)

[personal profile] mecurtin 2019-04-17 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Great recap as usual!

psst the link to the imgur album doesn't work.
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[personal profile] yantantether 2019-04-17 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
his teleportation has a distance limit

I didn't remember that and it's such a great detail and so useful to know for writing, thanks for noting it!
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[personal profile] forestofglory 2019-04-17 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh you caught two food things I missed in my post! The water thing and the snack stealing. Thanks!
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[personal profile] trobadora 2019-04-17 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Based on some of Shen Wei's comments, his teleportation has a distance limit, since he noted that if trouble struck in Dragon City while he was in the Northwest, he wouldn't be able to help.

I don't have time to rewatch right now, so I'll just ask: is it definitely a teleportation problem, or might it also be that he couldn't help because he wouldn't know it was happening?
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[personal profile] trobadora 2019-04-17 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Since it seems he was forced to make it into a research trip because he needed someone to drive him there, and xiao-Quan had a driver's licence.

Is that how you took it? Huh. That never occurred to me. And wasn't the trip already happening, and he only stepped in for another professor? (Damn, I really need to rewatch.)

How Shen Wei knows when and where to appear is a very good question! I don't have a definitive answer either.

[personal profile] demitas 2019-04-17 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my favorite Zhao Yunlan expressions is in this episode, right after he puts the jacket on Shen Wei, when he looks off like "Wow, that was... not the straightest thing I have ever done."

This:


(I pretty much love it when ZYL gets flustered, he does it so rarely and it's almost always due to SW, lol)

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[personal profile] china_shop 2019-04-17 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I am massively behind on my rewatch (already!!), so not really here, but:

The Hallows seem to be giving Zhao Yunlan colds?

The Dial affected Lin Jing, too, cf. that line in episode 2 where Lin Jing sneezes then says he doesn't have allergies.
riventhorn: (SW/ZYL taxi ride)

[personal profile] riventhorn 2019-04-18 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I thought Lin Jing sneezing was because ZYL and SW were talking about him elsewhere. They do that in anime all the time--if characters A and B are talking about character C where character C can't hear, they cut to character C sneezing.
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[personal profile] china_shop 2019-04-29 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Finally rewatched this ep last night. It took me about an hour and a half. *facepalm* I love so much about the car trip, and ZYL's pumping Jiajia for information to the point where Shen Wei tells her to go wait in the car!

and then declares she'll take care of Wang Zheng, dresses her in a way so that she doesn't have to use the sex doll as a transport device, and holds on to her during the way to the hotel.

I'm not sure about this? During the car journey, GCC says, "Sister Wang Zheng, do you feel alright? Are you not satisfied with the doll......or" and she says, "I am fine." So I thought she was using the doll but still needed to be well-covered up (or Zhu Hong had covered her for propriety/to stop Lin Jing sniggering).

Another point: given that Zhu Jiu gives that rallying speech to the You Chu, does that mean they're sentient? I'm curious about the line between people and monsters and how blurry it gets.
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2019-04-29 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
In ep 10, we see that there is a Wang Zheng look-alike doll! I had simply underestimated Zhu Hong's skills with make-up.

Ha! Maybe Wang Zheng inhabiting it altered it somehow.

They can definitely listen to orders, so I think they're at least dog level, likely smarter.

It's not just orders. Zhu Jiu reminds them of their grievances ("Attacked by both human and undergroundians with no hiding place, you must feel angry"). But then, Zhu Jiu likes to think he's a mastermind, when mostly he's just a dick -- he might just have been speechifying for his own benefit. ;-P

Another random observation: Lin Jing tells GCC that he's bad luck. "We have lots of troubles since you joined us." And Zhu Hong overrides him and implies Shen Wei is the real problem. Heh.
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[personal profile] solo 2019-04-17 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Xiao Guo notes in his diary that Lin Jing took the sex doll.

Shen Wei says that his powers are limited in Haixing so it's possible he could teleport greater distances in Dixing.
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[personal profile] riventhorn 2019-04-18 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
For a moment I thought Zhu Jiu had in a fit of jealousy acquired his own bush friend.

lololol; awwww, Zhu Jiu needs a bush friend!

The jacket scene alone makes this a wonderful episode.
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[personal profile] goodgriefcharlie 2019-04-18 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Zhu Hong is the BEST in the episode. I adore how she helps Wang Zheng and steals GCC's snacks, but the bit where she takes the gun from ZYL and shoots when he cannot? *swoon*

He's also genuinely sorry for her about the sex doll Guo Changcheng purchased.

ZYL's anger and upset here is just SO GOOD. I love that he realizes immediately that it isn't funny for WZ and stops the others from joking about it. (Although I do wonder what he thought he was asking GCC to buy? Are there plastic/vinyl dolls that an adult-sized person could adapt to wear over themselves that aren't sex dolls? I'm afraid to google to find out.)

The other is when the village leader comes to apologize for the attempted spooking. Zhao Yunlan says a few very plain words then lets the weight of his disapproving gaze do the rest, and Shen Wei joins in with more condemnation. Teamwork!

I love this a lot too. It's just so natural? Like the verbal equivalent of how they unerringly fall in step together. ♥
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[personal profile] marycrawford 2019-09-02 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Going back to earlier eps seems safer :D Thank you for the caps!

Also, additional nerdy detail for Jacket Watch: the crucial Northface jacket is actually a Northface X Supreme Steep Tech jacket, so a limited edition crossover between two popular streetwear brands. (I don't really think Zhao Yunlan is a hypebeast, I think he has a buddy who hooks him up, but I just love the mental image.)
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[personal profile] marycrawford 2019-09-02 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, thanks! I see she went even deeper into the rabbit hole than I did - I found the jacket, or a similar one, on sale for around $800 but the secondhand market for Supreme stuff can get nuts.
That link is great, even if I can't read Chinese, I can still admire the dedication (and note that Shen Wei wears a Ralph Lauren vest, and suchlike things.)
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[personal profile] mekare 2019-10-22 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
For a moment I thought Zhu Jiu had in a fit of jealousy acquired his own bush friend

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Shen Wei protests, but later puts the jacket on properly and doesn't take it off. He's also very visibly shocked at someone taking care of him, and extremely touched.

One of my favourite moments in this entire arc. *hearteyes*