china_shop: A close-up of the Envoy's mouth and chin, with just the bottom edge of his mask in frame. (Guardian - Envoy)
The Gauche in the Machine ([personal profile] china_shop) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2025-05-29 08:07 am
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Poll: Flavours of Ye Zun (drama)




Poll #33174 Ye Zun
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 15


Which flavour of Ye Zun is most frightening?

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Childhood, white robe and black hair
0 (0.0%)

With the Rebels, pre-powers: white robe, black mask, black hair
0 (0.0%)

Leading the Rebels, with powers: white robe, gold mask, white hair
3 (21.4%)

Glowy pillar
2 (14.3%)

Monologuing hologram in the park
3 (21.4%)

Seething black form with glowy eyes
2 (14.3%)

Disguised as Shen Wei (casual)
3 (21.4%)

Disguised as Shen Wei (Envoy)
2 (14.3%)

White suit, cane, mask and pony-tail
3 (21.4%)

Long white robe in the palace with energy whip
1 (7.1%)

Long white robe in the palace with bleeding forehead
4 (28.6%)

other
1 (7.1%)

Which is your favourite Ye Zun flavour?

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Childhood, white robe and black hair
0 (0.0%)

With the Rebels, pre-powers: white robe, black mask, black hair
2 (14.3%)

Leading the Rebels, with powers: white robe, gold mask, white hair
2 (14.3%)

Glowy pillar
0 (0.0%)

Monologuing hologram in the park
1 (7.1%)

Seething black form with glowy eyes
0 (0.0%)

Disguised as Shen Wei (casual)
5 (35.7%)

Disguised as Shen Wei (Envoy)
0 (0.0%)

White suit, cane, mask and pony-tail
10 (71.4%)

Long white robe in the palace with energy whip
1 (7.1%)

Long white robe in the palace with bleeding forehead
1 (7.1%)

other
0 (0.0%)

Why does modern-day Ye Zun have a shift/train rather than a billowy cloak like the Envoy’s?

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His cloak is in the wash
0 (0.0%)

It kept catching on things
1 (6.7%)

Fashions have changed in the last 10k years, and he keeps up with the trends unlike *some* people
10 (66.7%)

He doesn't like how it feels over his hair, especially with the hood up
3 (20.0%)

Ye Zun's charisma *is* his billowy cloak
5 (33.3%)

He used it as a draught-stopper in the pillar and it got crumpled
4 (26.7%)

other
0 (0.0%)

trobadora: (Ye Zun)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-29 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
if he hadn't had to stand everyone talking about Hei Pao Shi in such glowing terms, during his empillarment

Oof, yeah, that's a good point!

I mean, a big part of it all is the pillar itself - while he's trapped in there he can only stew in his own feelings; he can't move on and build a life for himself, which might help him grow beyond it. But the fact that he can't escape his brother's reputation has to be a constant thorn in his side, making sure he can't forget about SW ever, even if he'd let himself. Absolutely no wonder he's worse in the present than he was in the past!

(I wonder about Sang Zan. He was also trapped in a pillar, and there were the ghosts of his tribe as well, everyone who'd turned against him and Ge Lan. Maybe they couldn't reach him, so he didn't constantly get it all reinforced? I don't think we know ...)
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-29 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe after a while he started to listen, and somehow learned to see both sides of the story?

Yeah, maybe! He didn't have a single enemy to focus all his hatred on; maybe that made it easier to learn to hear what everyone was saying.
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-29 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
All great points, yes!
extrapenguin: A man raising a glass protector off from above a magic device. (guardian)

[personal profile] extrapenguin 2025-05-29 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder about Sang Zan. He was also trapped in a pillar, and there were the ghosts of his tribe as well, everyone who'd turned against him and Ge Lan. Maybe they couldn't reach him, so he didn't constantly get it all reinforced? I don't think we know ...

Part of it could also be just the timescale? Sang Zan was empillared for 300 years IIRC (or 100? anyway), while Ye Zun was in there for 10 000, which is like over 30× as long. Lots more time to go mad in 10k years!
trobadora: (Wang Zheng - *faints*)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-29 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's a good point! (100 years, as far as I remember.)