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The Gauche in the Machine ([personal profile] china_shop) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2025-05-11 10:25 am
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Guardian Readalong: Vol. 3, Chapters 1 & 2

Guardian novel readalong.


Hi, and welcome to this week's installment of the Guardian novel readalong - in this post, we're starting volume three!

Here are last week's chapters, and you can find all previous discussions in the schedule posts (part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4), or via the !readalong tag.

This week's chapters:

Chapter 1: Guo Changcheng's uncle learns that Changcheng is working at the SID, and he calls Zhao Yunlan to invite him to dinner. Zhao Yunlan's being exhausted doesn't put a damper on his seduction attempts, but a leg cramp does. While Shen Wei massages him, Zhao Yunlan questions what he saw in the Great Divine Tree and questions Shen Wei about it. Shen Wei lets his hair down.
Chapter 2: The Magistrate and one of the Ten Yanluo Kings discuss whether Kunlun has been reawakened; if not, they might have to kill Zhao Yunlan's mortal body. Zhao Yunlan takes Shen Wei to his parents' for a meal; his dad isn't home. Zhao Yunlan tries to buy Shen Wei 5000 flowers and is flirty, then realises how much Shen Wei suffered while waiting for him. They track down Zhao Yunlan's "dad" at a teahouse, and Zhao Yunlan learns that his father is sharing his body with sentient dinnerware. Zhao Yunlan asks Shennong's mortar if it forged his memories in the Great Divine Tree. Zhao Yunlan's real dad appears and is kind of a dick, too. Zhao Yunlan fails to oust Shennong's mortar with a god-banishing talisman.

The corresponding chapters in the Chinese version on JJWXC and the fan translation are chapters 79-80.

Excerpts:

1) Guo Changcheng's uncle and aunt find out where he's working

Overflowing with worry, Guo Changcheng’s aunt asked, “What does this department investigate? Surely not important high-profile cases?”

Guo Changcheng opened his mouth, but before he could speak, his second uncle rapped his chopsticks on the side of his bowl. “Keep your questions to yourself. Everything the Special Investigations Department handles is top secret. Don’t make him slip up and say something he shouldn’t. But this is truly bizarre! How did you end up there?”

Only now did Guo Changcheng finally process what he was hearing: his acceptance into the Special Investigations Department really had been a mistake all along, just as he’d suspected. Given his below-average intelligence and people skills, no relative with even a shred of self-awareness would’ve ever recommended him to such a prestigious position.

Guo Changcheng, passive introvert that he was, only ever told his family good news, leaving out the bad entirely. Every time he’d called to tell them how he was doing, it had always been the same report: “I’m doing well.” As a result, over six months had passed without them realizing that he ended up working in the wrong place.



2) Zhao Yunlan tries to be seductive

After a conversation in which he barely seemed to register who was calling or what he himself said in response, he reeled off a bunch of auspicious blessings and hung up, feeling even more drained. Burying his face back into his pillow, he whined, “My head hurts.”

Shen Wei was beside him at once, holding him close in a supportive embrace. After carefully feeling his forehead, Shen Wei said, “You’re a little warm. What brought this fever on so suddenly?”

“What do you think?” Zhao Yunlan’s voice was weak. “Get me some antibiotics and fever meds, will you?”

Shen Wei blushed and obeyed without a word.

After choking down the handful of little pills Shen Wei brought him, Zhao Yunlan rolled up his pajama sleeves and abruptly launched himself forward, pinning Shen Wei down on the bed. Expression fierce, he demanded, “Did this lowly one serve you well last night, my lord?”

Q uickly moving to support his waist, Shen Wei pulled Zhao Yunlan’s gaping pajama top tightly closed around him. “Don’t kick the blanket—you’ve let the heat out! Now you’re going to catch a cold.”



3) Shen Wei's hair

Shen Wei rubbed the sore spot gently. He answered with surprising candor, as if the absolute physical intimacy they’d shared had loosened his tongue. “It’s true. My heart was swept away the first time I laid eyes on you. I’ve never forgotten it for a single moment.”

“Love at first sight, huh?” Zhao Yunlan flashed him a smug, ­lascivious smile. “Hey, you’re supposed to have long hair, right? Take off your glasses and let your husband have a look.”

Shen Wei obligingly removed his glasses. As he shifted back to his true appearance, a cascade of ink-black hair spilled across the bed.

Some men had an inexplicable obsession with long hair. Whether or not that was true of Zhao Yunlan, the sight of Shen Wei’s hair tumbling down around him went straight to his id—a flawless example of the kind of thing he was into.

At first, he just gazed, struck speechless. Then he carefully reached out one greedy hand to caress a silken lock of hair. This life was truly worth living.

[Help! I want to quote this whole scene!]



4) Shen Wei describes their life in the past

Softly, Zhao Yunlan said, “Tell me more about what happened after we met in the grove.”

Shen Wei paused before replying. “I didn’t really understand anything at the time,” he said, his voice low. “I only knew how good you were to me. You took me to see all the great mountains and rivers. We traveled all over, stopping here and there. But you kept saying how unfortunate it was that Nüwa hadn’t yet mended the sky. You said that the unending torrents of rain had robbed even the great mountains and rivers of their beauty. I didn’t mind, though. They were still beautiful to me—the most beautiful sights I’d ever seen.”

Zhao Yunlan’s brow furrowed. “ Was I good to you? I was the one who forcibly elevated you to godhood.”

Shen Wei laughed. “There’s no place for the likes of me between the earth and the sky. You brought me out of the Place of Great Disrespect to protect me, not to do me harm. I’m grateful to you for all of that. The time we spent together was all the life I needed; having had that, I would’ve died willingly.”

“Shut up,” Zhao Yunlan said. “Don’t talk such nonsense.”



5) Zhao Yunlan asks who "dad" is and explains why his tree-vision can't be true

“What are you, then? Don’t tell me you’re Shennong himself.”

“No, no, I’m no one so mighty.” His “dad” smiled. “I’m nothing but a stone mortar left behind by Shennong. During the Battle of the Creation of Gods, I hitched a ride. Through sheer fortune, I managed to successfully cultivate a consciousness. I’ve done many things to offend Kunlun-jun in the past, but I truly had no choice. My apologies.”

“So what are you doing in my dad’s body? Did you forge the memories I saw in the Great Divine Tree?”

The man’s brows tightened. “Oh?” he asked slowly.

“I’m not some edgelord, and I’m not the Monkey King who turned the Heavenly Palace upside down.” Zhao Yunlan drank the high-quality tea in one gulp, as if it were water. “Sure, I can be a little arrogant, but most of the time I’m pretty easygoing. If something drove me to rebel, it would have to be something as vast as the sky—something that filled me with the fury of the earth. But those things I saw in there? Those memories? I didn’t relate to them at all. There’s no way that was me. Besides, Kunlun was charged with all the mountains and rivers between the earth and the sky. He was the protector of every living spirit within those mountains. I’ve basically been an animal rights activist in all my lives. There’s no way I’d ever blind a divine dragon for no reason.”

His “dad” glanced at Shen Wei and nodded in agreement. “That makes sense.”



Questions:

Is it reasonable for Guo Changcheng's uncle and aunt to freak out at the news of his job? What's your favourite Weilan moment in these chapters? (There are so many!) Should Shen Wei wear his hair long all the time? How does the Netherworld expect to get away with killing Kunlun-jun's mortal body, given how obsessed the Emissary is with him? How do you feel about jealous!Shen Wei? What was your first reaction to finding out about Shennong's mortar? Any thoughts about how moments in these chapters affected or were remixed in the drama adaptation?

(As usual, these are all just conversation starters - feel free to answer all, some, or none, and to say as much or as little as you like! You don't have to be keeping up with the readalong!)

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facethestrange: (guardian: xiao wei lollipop)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"Because they're all weirdos already so he doesn't have to pretend to be normal? Maybe that's why GCC finds him so reassuring. :D"

Omg, I love the sound of this, because if he's not pretending as much, and he's still so soft and gentle that GCC not only isn't afraid of him but actively feels more safe around him, then it means that he really just IS this soft and gentle. ♡ (Which is obvious, but I always like having more proof. :D)
facethestrange: (guardian: xiao wei lollipop)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"He probably hasn't mentioned that his mentor is a zombie, for example. :D"

*SNORT* Does his family even know that zombies are a thing at all? I'm assuming if GCC accidentally said something about the supernatural stuff, his uncle would just act like he didn't hear it, like with his boss's name. xD

"That would have been so fascinating. I wonder where it would have fit best... imagine if whenever he went to Dixing, his body reacted to the ambient dark energy by lengthening his hair! :D"

That's kinda what happens to the Regent, isn't it? But the place where I would really love Shen Wei's long hair in the drama is the scenes where he's not wearing glasses in Zhao Yunlan's apartment. ♡♡♡ Full domestic intimacy yes please. :D
facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan lollipop)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think he's just not very talkative. Like, he probably helps out and asks after their days, and they're so used to him not having anything interesting going on that they don't ask. They don't know about his charity work either, iirc."

Ahhh, that's another good reason for him to imprint on the SID so strongly? Because finally someone cares about what he's doing? (Even if it's largely because they're making sure he doesn't mess something up. :P But they're training him and helping him and keeping track of his progress, and apparently people haven't really been doing that for him before!)

"It must be because he knows how perceptive ZYL is, mustn't it? I mean, it's not like he wants anyone to know his true nature, but he knows that ZYL is the one person who can see through him?"

Wow, that kinda just makes it even sadder to me, because ZYL can see through him and LIKES what he sees. And SW is still expecting him to find something terrible that isn't even there.

"Awwww! It's SW who makes him want to stay? Aww!"

Ikrrrrr. ♡♡♡ I really love the official version that lists everyone, but I'd love if the versions were merged so that SW is still properly credited.
trobadora: (Shen Wei - young Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
imagine if whenever he went to Dixing, his body reacted to the ambient dark energy by lengthening his hair! :D

Damn, now I am imagining that, it would be delightful! I mean, it would undermine the whole "Envoying while looking like Professor Shen" thing a little bit, so overall I'm glad it didn't go that way, but it would have made for amazing visuals!
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[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definitely my headcanon!
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really glad that in the drama they made all the unreliable confusingness about Chu Shuzhi and Guo Changcheng instead, so it wasn't plot-critical.

LOL, seriously! I mean, it mostly comes together after enough rewatching (and rereading, I assume), but still, both of these things are so confusing at first, and it being so crucial to the characters and the plot is what made it extra frustrating to me in the novel.
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[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd like that so much better without the "flawless example of". ;-p

*high fives*

It must be because he knows how perceptive ZYL is, mustn't it? I mean, it's not like he wants anyone to know his true nature, but he knows that ZYL is the one person who can see through him?

That's a much nicer take than what I was imagining, which was that he's terrified of presenting an offputting image to ZYL because he can't imagine his true self not being offputting to anyone, even ZYL. :(

Awwww! It's SW who makes him want to stay? Aww!

YES! I'm so sad that this bit got cut! Like, I really appreciate the official translation's version listing everyone at the SID, but SW getting left out? Boo!

>> The first part of this line is iconic ...
How so? (I don't think I've encountered it before.)


It was quoted A LOT in the early days of the fandom, when novel fans were still the majority. And IIRC it even turned up in a behind-the-scenes thing, though I may be misremembering that.

LOLOL! (I bet priest hesitated before cutting that line. :D)

Ha, right? Eloping cats! It's a fabulous line, definitely a loss.
trobadora: (Guardian - SID team)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So in fact, in some ways the SID (minus ZYL) is where he can be most himself? Because they're all weirdos already so he doesn't have to pretend to be normal?

AWWWWW, I love that. :D

(and glad you're with us about the waitress thing being confusing!)
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, welcome back to the sixty-billion-comments club! :D

LOL! Is CSZ patient with anyone else?? I can't imagine anyone else describing him that way.

Seriously! It's such a lovely unexpected combination of character types that shouldn't fit but do. And there's even more of it in the drama, I love that they took this thread and ran with it. :D

Wow, this is the opposite of the drama. Huh.

I found that a weird statement for the novel, too, as you've seen in the other comments. I still don't quite know what exactly I'm supposed to be thinking of Shen Wei's social skills, or whether this is one of those instances where some things were changed at some point during the writing process, and traces of an older concept still linger.

The hair doesn't do anything for me, personally, but I'm glad ZYL is into it.

Heh. Personally I think almost all people look better with longer hair, at almost all times. (Historical cdramas are very good to me that way! *g*)

Wait, how does ZYL know they haven't hooked up a bunch of times before? Surely he should have more faith in his previous incarnations' powers of seduction? ;-p

Oh, that's a great point! Ha, OMG, that would have been so very OUCH, for him to imagine having been with SW in all his past lives, only to then discover the truth.

ZYL is clumsy now?? confused (But the new and shiny things made me think of his drama jeep and all the motorbikes, lol.)

I'm not seeing the clumsiness. Carelessness, maybe - I can see him breaking stuff by not taking care of it much more easily than by being clumsy!

The JJWXC Chinese version doesn't have him being clumsy, either; instead it describes ZYL as extravagant, wasteful and enamoured with new things. Which makes much more sense! I wonder if there's an error in the translation here?

I hate the 'thinking of himself as filthy and unworthy' part, though. Ugh. Get therapy, novel!Shen Wei!

Seriously!!!!!

I'm calling such bullshit on this. My verbatim note is: HE DRIVES A CAR!!

LOL! So true. I'm 100% with you on this, SW doesn't need to be able to tinker with devices the way ZYL does here to understand the basic concept, and he couldn't be driving a car if that was beyond him!

(I headcanon that drama!SW does not drive a car, and so his lack of facility with most tech is at least consistent. ;-p)

LOL! I headcanon that he can drive, and he's actually fine with a lot of tech, including modern lab equipment, which he'd need to be able to use to be doing cutting-edge science. But he actively avoids mobile phones and computers where he can because he had to catch up on so much tech when he first arrived in Haixing, and can't be bothered with constantly updating unless he really needs to. (Plus, avoiding mobile phones because he doesn't want people to expect him to be reachable outside of office hours.)

Hm, I wonder if this got converted into drama!Shen Wei's apology for not noticing the banner cam?

Oh, that would make sense as a connection!

Oh hey, they meet ZYL's dad in a teahouse -- is that why drama!SW meets ZXC in a teahouse? :D

I definitely imagined the teahouse from the drama!

Perfect encapsulation of some of drama!SW's smiles, omg!

So many of the Shen Wei descriptions fit so well, it's amazing they were able to pull that off.

Interesting contrast with ZXC, who's driven partly by ambition, but just as much by bigotry.

But also by genuinely caring about protecting Haixing! Like, he's terrible and going about it in wrong, bigoted ways, but at least he has principles, which the novel version seems to lack? And I don't think money is a motivator for him at all, it just comes with the rest of his ambitions.

Doesn't this contradict the bit above about him not knowing how to keep up appearances?

Ha! So glad you thought it was a contradiction, too!
facethestrange: (guardian: xiao wei lollipop)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
My pleasure. :D I'm a big fan of the last one too, it's so impressively dynamic! And the second one too, so soft and calm and slow (and Zhao Yunlan has no idea where to put his legs even when he's lying down, lol). ♡
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[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this one a lot too, and now I'm very curious which aspect of it is relatable. :D :D
trobadora: (Shen Wei - right hand 右)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly have no idea how much the uncle actually knows, and now I really wish I did! I mean, in the drama he knows about Dixing, but if it's made clear in the novel I've totally forgotten it.

But the place where I would really love Shen Wei's long hair in the drama is the scenes where he's not wearing glasses in Zhao Yunlan's apartment. ♡♡♡

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! That would be so lovely. And I can imagine it so clearly - Shen Wei taking off his glasses, and as his hand sweeps down, his hair lengthening ...
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - not wrong)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I love his position with his leg all up on the back of the sofa! It's so him. :D
facethestrange: (guardian: xiao wei lollipop)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"I honestly have no idea how much the uncle actually knows, and now I really wish I did! I mean, in the drama he knows about Dixing, but if it's made clear in the novel I've totally forgotten it."

I'm not sure how much the novel actually says about it either. He obviously does know about the SID and that they do top-secret dangerous things, but idk if he knows what kinds of things exactly. It could theoretically be secret agent stuff, not supernatural stuff.

"AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! That would be so lovely. And I can imagine it so clearly - Shen Wei taking off his glasses, and as his hand sweeps down, his hair lengthening ..."

Omggggggg. *AWESTRUCK* This is the most beautiful concept, and someone needs to make it into an animation of some sort because I need to see it, asdfgsdghgfdhsjkl ♡♡♡
facethestrange: (guardian: xiao wei lollipop)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely, imo! :D ♡_♡
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - jacket grab)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
OHHHHHH an animation would be brilliant, yeah, I hadn't even thought of that! Damn, someone needs to do that!!!!!
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[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-05-21 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"Even though he's been living in human society long enough to get a job and everything, all his interactions have been professional or impersonal up till now. The SID must have been SUCH a shock to the system. ;-D"

Hahah, it must be like a whole new world indeed. :D And then there are the ~proper~ families that definitely don't operate like the SID either, lol, which he still has zero experience with. He can impress them with his job and character (like Zhao Yunlan's mother), but I can see him not actually knowing how they do things and what the unspoken family-related conventions are.

"Oh, yes! Why isn't SW there? tiny momentary sadface"

Exactly my reaction when I realized that, lol.
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-05-21 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and even with the stuff that seems OOC, it's impossible to tell the difference between "this will actually make perfect sense once you learn WHY he does it" and "this makes no sense because it's not what actually happened" ...

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