china_shop: Shen Wei leading Zhao Yunlan by the wrist. (Guardian - wrist grab)
The Gauche in the Machine ([personal profile] china_shop) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2022-01-29 11:36 am

Focus on: Consulting Dr Cheng about Zhao Yunlan's eyes, ep 21

Ep 21, 3:29 to 5:22 (here on Youtube)
English and Chinese subs by the Viki team.

Extreme side-on close-up of Zhao Yunlan's eyes, as he gets an eye exam.

The scene starts off with a close-up of Zhao Yunlan's eyelashes. \o/

Dr Cheng concentrating and staring at a screen as she examines Zhao Yunlan's eyes.

Dr Cheng Xinyan concentrates as she examines his eyes with what I think is a retinal camera. (Idk why I spent so long looking up optometry equipment!)

Close up of Shen Wei looking tense in blue shirt and dark vest.

Shen Wei looks understandably tense.

Dr Cheng says, "It's done." (好了) Shen Wei tells Zhao Yunlan to get up (来) and pushes him into a chair. "Sit." (坐)

They all sit at the desk, and Shen Wei and Dr Cheng confer about Zhao Yunlan's prognosis while I froth at the mouth about him being right there, don't talk about him like he's not right there!

Two-shot of Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei consulting Dr Cheng; Shen Wei is looking earnestly at Dr Cheng.

SW: How is he, Doctor Cheng? 怎么样成医生
CXY: I've checked his eyes, but everything seems fine. 我检查了他的角膜 视网膜 晶状体以及视神经都没发现什么异常
I'm really sorry, I can't find the reason why he lost his sight. 很抱歉 我查不出他失眼的原因
ZYL: (spreading his hands) So, the hospital can't help me either. 这么说 医院也没法治啊

He doesn't seem surprised or dismayed. I think he was expecting this and felt Shen Wei was clutching at straws to bring him here. Or maybe he's just fronting, as he does.

Wide shot of Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan consulting Dr Cheng; Dr Cheng is smiling at Zhao Yunlan.

CXY: Shen Wei must have already done all that I could do. For you two to still come find me, you must be so worried that you became muddled. 我能做的沈巍应该都做了 还来找我只能说关心则乱了吧

a) I presume she's talking about rest, cold compresses and eye drops, but for some reason this line always makes me think she knows about Shen Wei's powers.
b) Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan both react to her use of Shen Wei's name: I think Shen Wei looks like he wants to stuff that cat right back into its bag; Zhao Yunlan is openly curious.

Two-shot of Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei consulting Dr Cheng; Zhao Yunlan is looking curiously at Shen Wei, and Shen Wei is looking seriously at Dr Cheng.

ZYL: You know each other? 你们俩认识
SW: Doctor Cheng is my university classmate. 成医生是我大学同学
ZYL nods. "Oh."

Two-shot of Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei consulting Dr Cheng; Zhao Yunlan is doing his "everything's fine" laugh.

Zhao Yunlan does his "everything's fine" laugh, then catches Shen Wei's barely audible sigh.

ZYL: That's enough. Even though I can't see, I know that you are putting on a worried face. 行了 我这不用看都知道你现在肯定是哭丧着一张脸

Shen Wei raises his head, faintly exasperated, maybe?

ZYL (cont): I am a lucky person. I have a resilient life. I won't die. 我这个人呢 吉人自有天相 命硬 死不了
SW: The problem isn't that you'll die. It's— 这不是死不死的问题 这

Two-shot of Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei consulting Dr Cheng; Zhao Yunlan holds up a hand to interrupt Shen Wei.

An alarm goes off on Zhao Yunlan's phone, and he holds up a hand to interrupt Shen Wei.

ZYL: It's time. 时间到了啊
SW: You have something on? 你有事啊
ZYL: Don't you have a lecture for the sophomores at 10:00 a.m.? 你这上午十点要给大二上课呢

Shen Wei looks taken aback, like it was the furthest thing from his mind, and maybe he's a bit self-conscious about that -- or about what Cheng Xinyan might be thinking of his and Zhao Yunlan's relationship.

Two-shot of Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei consulting Dr Cheng; Shen Wei looks like he's been put on the spot.

He looks at Cheng Xinyan...

Dr Cheng with lowered eyes, smiling to herself.

...who smiles to herself.

SW: I think I'd better take the day off. 我还是请假好了

Two-shot of Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei consulting Dr Cheng; Zhao Yunlan is explaining something.
ZYL: There's no need, Da Qing is coming soon. 不用啊 大庆马上就来陪我了

Dr Cheng looking at Shen Wei with a very small smile.

Cheng Xinyan gives Shen Wei a small grin of "you've been out-manoeuvred, and also you two are so cute!" Shen Wei breathes a tiny, polite laugh in response.

SW: (to ZYL) Then, I'll pick you up after my class. 那 那我下课之后过来接你
SW (cont.): (earnestly) Doctor Cheng, I'll leave him in your care. 成医生 那就麻烦你照顾他一下了

Cheng Xinyan nods, and Shen Wei says thank you. (谢谢)

Zhao Yunlan grinning blindly at Dr Cheng.

Zhao Yunlan waves without looking around and grins broadly in the general direction of Dr Cheng.

Random staging observations


  • The office door is open, which seems weird during a patient consultation.
  • When Shen Wei helps Zhao Yunlan to his chair, he pushes him by the shoulder to sit back.
  • Shen Wei's bag is on the other chair, and he just sits in front of it, presumably putting him on the edge of his seat. How apt!
  • As soon as Zhao Yunlan sits down, he crosses his legs -- as always, he's being very deliberately chill.
  • They sit close together and don't hesitate to talk among themselves, including about their (Shen Wei's) feelings. ♥

Great things about this scene


  1. Dr Cheng -- a welcome additional woman in the cast, and one who is likeable, smart and capable, successful in her field, and not defined by a romantic relationship -- A+!

  2. Shen Wei & Cheng Xinyan -- they clearly like and respect each other, with zero romantic tension (I feel like in any other show, they would be exes or there would be some ~history~ there); their being classmates speaks to Shen Wei's time in contemporary Haixing; how much does she know about him? how many other classmates is he still in touch with? Was he popular at university?

  3. Zhao Yunlan -- indomitable! cheery, undeterred, declaring himself lucky and resilient; seeming more interested in the idea that Shen Wei & Cheng Xinyan know each other than in his own predicament; being capable and proactive, and looking out for Shen Wei. (Not wanting to be a nuisance?)

  4. Shen Wei -- in full-on protective mode; he looks to me like he wants to cut Dr Cheng off when she calls him Shen Wei, like he wants to keep this info secret too; he's really not used to having his worlds collide, but he brought Zhao Yunlan here anyway, because this is an emergency! (What did he tell her had happened to Zhao Yunlan's eyes, when he called to make the appointment?)

  5. Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan -- they're so coupley! Shen Wei is acting as Zhao Yunlan's guardian, openly taking responsibility for him, not bothering to hide his concern; not only does Zhao Yunlan have Shen Wei's schedule in his phone, this seems to be the first Shen Wei is hearing of it. Adorable!

    • A poll, not intended to be taken seriously


      Poll #26577 Dr Cheng consultation scene poll, just for fun (tick all that apply)
      Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 23


      Dr Cheng is

      View Answers

      cute
      15 (65.2%)

      awesome
      17 (73.9%)

      queer
      10 (43.5%)

      insta-shipping Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan
      20 (87.0%)

      other (I will elaborate in comments)
      0 (0.0%)

      Dr Cheng

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      knows Shen Wei has special powers / isn't human / is Dixingren
      13 (56.5%)

      knows Shen Wei is the Black-Cloaked Envoy
      0 (0.0%)

      knows Shen Wei is queer
      15 (65.2%)

      knows Shen Wei has been in love with a mysteriously absent someone for more than ten years
      9 (39.1%)

      can definitely tell Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan are a couple
      20 (87.0%)

      other (I will elaborate in comments)
      0 (0.0%)

      Shen Wei

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      would rather keep the different areas of his life siloed and separate
      14 (60.9%)

      is most worried about Zhao Yunlan personally
      18 (78.3%)

      is most worried about the timeline/history/fate of the world
      4 (17.4%)

      had to be reminded about his own lecture!!!
      17 (73.9%)

      has just been outed to Cheng Xinyan
      1 (4.3%)

      is doing his utmost not to fuss and managing surprisingly well, considering
      18 (78.3%)

      other (I will elaborate in comments)
      0 (0.0%)

      What does it mean when Dr Cheng says, "Shen Wei must have already done all that I could do"?

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      eye drops and cold compresses
      14 (60.9%)

      kissing it better
      7 (30.4%)

      it's an oblique reference to Shen Wei's powers
      13 (56.5%)

      other (I will elaborate in comments)
      0 (0.0%)

      How long has Zhao Yunlan had Shen Wei's university schedule in his phone?

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      since the day after the day they met
      6 (27.3%)

      since a week or two after they met
      14 (63.6%)

      since the Envoy identity reveal
      1 (4.5%)

      he got Da Qing to put it in after he was blinded (in the five minutes when Shen Wei wasn't taking care of or trying to heal him)
      1 (4.5%)

      other (I will elaborate in comments)
      0 (0.0%)

      As soon as Shen Wei's out of earshot, Zhao Yunlan asks Cheng Xinyan for gossip about Shen Wei's university days

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      true
      21 (95.5%)

      false
      1 (4.5%)

maggie33: (guardian cheng xinyan)

[personal profile] maggie33 2022-01-29 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
LOL that was a great post and a great poll. And this is one of my favorite scenes for all the reasons you specified under "Great things about this scene" title. I love Cheng Xinyan, she's the best, and I love her reactions in this scene, all those small fond smiles.

I feel like in any other show, they would be exes or there would be some ~history~ there

Oh, that's a good point. I think you're right and I love that they didn't do it here.
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - dance)

[personal profile] trobadora 2022-01-30 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
This is such a great scene. I really love Dr Cheng and her entire attitude. :D

I've checked his eyes, but everything seems fine. 我检查了他的角膜 视网膜 晶状体以及视神经都没发现什么异常

LOL, the original is so much more specific than the English subs! (She says she checked his cornea, retina, lens and optic nerve and found nothing abnormal.)

He doesn't seem surprised or dismayed. I think he was expecting this and felt Shen Wei was clutching at straws to bring him here. Or maybe he's just fronting, as he does.

I think it's a little bit of both? He probably didn't let himself hope for a medical answer, but his unconcern is definitely fronting.

I presume she's talking about rest, cold compresses and eye drops, but for some reason this line always makes me think she knows about Shen Wei's powers.

I know what you mean! It always makes me feel this way, too, even though she literally talks about him doing things she could have done, which are not Dixing-powered things. *g* It just somehow manages to sound like she’s implying he did more than that.

ZYL: That's enough. Even though I can't see, I know that you are putting on a worried face. 行了 我这不用看都知道你现在肯定是哭丧着一张脸
Shen Wei raises his head, faintly exasperated, maybe?


If the pop-up dictionary's translation of 哭丧 as "wailing at a funeral" is correct in this context, he has reason to be exasperated! "You're making a face like you're crying at my funeral", LOL.

ZYL: There's no need, Da Qing is coming soon. 不用啊 大庆马上就来陪我了

Da Qing is coming to keep him company (陪我)! Aw!

The office door is open, which seems weird during a patient consultation.

Ha, I never noticed that before! Definitely weird.

Shen Wei's bag is on the other chair, and he just sits in front of it, presumably putting him on the edge of his seat. How apt!

Nor this! Such a delightful detail!

their being classmates speaks to Shen Wei's time in contemporary Haixing; how much does she know about him? how many other classmates is he still in touch with? Was he popular at university?

This is the part that intrigues me most! I want to know all about Shen Wei and the people he's still in touch with, and what they think about him, and what they’d make of Zhao Yunlan!

he looks to me like he wants to cut Dr Cheng off when she calls him Shen Wei, like he wants to keep this info secret too; he's really not used to having his worlds collide, but he brought Zhao Yunlan here anyway, because this is an emergency!

I think there's definitely that aspect of him being used to keeping things separate, but maybe it's also him being in "deal with emergency!!!" mode and not being up for distractions? He doesn't deal well with teaching later, either. Like all of his mind is preoccupied with Zhao Yunlan’s blindness, and there's no space for anything else. *g*

(What did he tell her had happened to Zhao Yunlan's eyes, when he called to make the appointment?)

You know, that's a great question that I never considered before! Hm, at least after this, Dr Cheng knows about the SID, doesn't she? So either she already knew, or maybe here's where she finds out that they handle weird cases? And then saying something happened at work would be enough explanation?

Shen Wei is acting as Zhao Yunlan's guardian, openly taking responsibility for him, not bothering to hide his concern; not only does Zhao Yunlan have Shen Wei's schedule in his phone, this seems to be the first Shen Wei is hearing of it. Adorable!

I love all of this so much! ♥

Shen Wei
is most worried about Zhao Yunlan personally
is most worried about the timeline/history/fate of the world


I didn't click either of those because a) I think he's probably equally worried about both, and b) they'e sort of inextricably entwined, so I couldn't choose between them.

How long has Zhao Yunlan had Shen Wei's university schedule in his phone?

I bet that back when Shen Wei was sort of a suspect, Zhao Yunlan made Lin Jing compile Shen Wei's schedule – strictly for alibi purposes, of course! And if he told Lin Jing to be more thorough than usual, beyond the specific time frames involved at that time, well, that's just being proactive, right? :D
trobadora: (Shen Wei - don't know)

[personal profile] trobadora 2022-01-31 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if the display of unconcern is something Zhao Yunlan acquired from hanging out with the cat.

Oh, I love that! It's true, Da Qing has that kind of blithe attitude as well, though it feels more innate and less deliberate from him?

Oh, or I thought of an alternative interpretation, which is that although Shen Wei majored in biology, he could have also unofficially studied medicine at university (maybe studied with her?). Maybe he thought it would be handy to have a grounding in human physiology / first aid, because of Kunlun telling him, "You've already returned [the life that you owe me] many times over." To be prepared! And he was such a quick study, that he could learn all the things? *g* So Dr Cheng is implying that Shen Wei's medical knowledge is more than Zhao Yunlan realises?

Hee! That also works! :D

Oh, does she?

Now I'm doubting myself ... maybe she doesn't! But when ZYL and Shen Wei arrive at the hospital for the video game case, ZYL talks to her about investigating, and when they talk about Zu Ma she says something about having heard he's come across similar cases, so she knows something, doesn't she? *scrratches head*
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - be happy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2022-01-31 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I love that idea! That would totally make sense to me, yeah.
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[personal profile] nnozomi 2022-01-30 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
A great scene and a great writeup, bilingualness also appreciated! And lol the poll ;) Cheng Xinyan is so cute and so capable, I adore her, and the way she's very obviously going "lol these two are SO MARRIED" along with the rest of us is a delight.

SW: The problem isn't that you'll die. It's— 这不是死不死的问题 这
(I think this is funnier if translated something like "It's not a question of whether you're going to die!" or "Nobody is saying you're going to die!")

The office door is open, which seems weird during a patient consultation.
I never noticed this! Nice. My immediate interpretation (on absolutely no evidence) is that it's hospital policy for mixed-sex consultations to avoid concerns about harassment etc.

This is such a good scene for seeing their characters, as you point out--Zhao Yunlan deliberately casual, acting like he's taking things in stride. I think he is fronting somewhat as you say, and that as well as putting on a good face for other people, it's part of his way of coping on his own account, keeping himself on an even keel. And Shen Wei's tension here is so striking (along with the way his mind is obviously not on his class in the next scene); given how much stress/danger he usually handles (up through this point, anyway) without showing more than the most subtle reactions, you can see just how much this/Zhao Yunlan matters to him. (And how that leads to what he does with the Longevity Dial and thereafter, oh dear.)
(Even his posture--straight-backed Professor Shen is leaning toward Zhao Yunlan the whole time, so much that he has to turn his head to speak to Cheng Xinyan.)

damn, sorry about the edit, I knew there was something else I wanted to say--their marriedness is emphasized by the way each of them is calm when he himself is hurt/threatened and upset when the other one is; see also the kitchen scene, etc.
Edited ((sorry, forgot one point)) 2022-01-30 12:06 (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - jacket grab)

[personal profile] trobadora 2022-01-30 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this is funnier if translated something like "It's not a question of whether you're going to die!"

Haha, yeah, it's definitely funnier like this!

My immediate interpretation (on absolutely no evidence) is that it's hospital policy for mixed-sex consultations to avoid concerns about harassment etc.

That makes some sense to me, yeah - but privacy concerns?????

I think he is fronting somewhat as you say, and that as well as putting on a good face for other people, it's part of his way of coping on his own account, keeping himself on an even keel.

You expressed that really well, that's exactly how I see it too!

their marriedness is emphasized by the way each of them is calm when he himself is hurt/threatened and upset when the other one is

AHHHHHHHHHHH *screams*
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[personal profile] elenothar 2022-01-30 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm also in the 'yay Cheng Xinyan!' camp - I would love to know more about her and Shen Wei's time at uni and how much or little they've stayed in contact since then. The vibe doesn't seem to me that it's been ages since they've seen each other, it's too easy and casual for that (not to mention Shen Wei dragging Zhao Yunlan to her during a crisis, which speaks to some amount of trust).

... I have no other coherent thoughts right now, but thank you for putting together such a fun scene discussion!
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[personal profile] awanderingcoyote 2022-01-30 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhhh what an awesome write-up!!! <

They all sit at the desk, and Shen Wei and Dr Cheng confer about Zhao Yunlan's prognosis while I froth at the mouth about him being right there, don't talk about him like he's not right there!
-Ahahah. They so did talk over his head!

He doesn't seem surprised or dismayed. I think he was expecting this and felt Shen Wei was clutching at straws to bring him here. Or maybe he's just fronting, as he does.
-Agreed, I read it similar in the sense of putting on a good front, but also that Zhao Yunlan was expecting to hear such a diagnosis. Shen Wei was definitely the more desperate one here.


a) I presume she's talking about rest, cold compresses and eye drops, but for some reason this line always makes me think she knows about Shen Wei's powers.
b) Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan both react to her use of Shen Wei's name: I think Shen Wei looks like he wants to stuff that cat right back into its bag; Zhao Yunlan is openly curious.


- Point a: I always assumed she knew about Shen Wei's powers as well. Perhaps not all of them, but it seems like at the very least his heaing ones!
-Point b: Yes, Zhao Yunlan's head turn of 'whatttt' was very openly curious! Like: SW more secrets?! (though not in an angry way this round)

Shen Wei raises his head, faintly exasperated, maybe?
-Agreed!! Such exasperation (I love all these little moments between them!)

Cheng Xinyan gives Shen Wei a small grin of "you've been out-manoeuvred, and also you two are so cute!" Shen Wei breathes a tiny, polite laugh in response.
-Ahhhh dying at her expression. It's so great!

Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan -- they're so coupley! Shen Wei is acting as Zhao Yunlan's guardian, openly taking responsibility for him, not bothering to hide his concern; not only does Zhao Yunlan have Shen Wei's schedule in his phone, this seems to be the first Shen Wei is hearing of it. Adorable!
-This episode definitely has some of the best moments for the two, agreed!! I also liked the fact that Shen Wei seemed much more open (vulnerable in some sense, but that's not the right word) here as well, which was probably from his intense worry for Zhao Yunlan.


I always loved how BY played ZYL in this episode. He totally had the unfocused, but I'm trying to 'look' look at a person down.

Either way, this was a fun write-up and I loved the poll at the end :D Thank you for sharing!!




mekare: Shen Wei blushes and smiles (Guardian Shen Wei BLUSH)

[personal profile] mekare 2022-02-01 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This is so fascinating, one of the very few people who have known Shen Wei when he started his identity in Haixing!