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The Gauche in the Machine ([personal profile] china_shop) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2026-03-10 10:29 am
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Sang Zan's cave and other poll questions

Poll #34345 Sang Zan's cave, naming the Hallows, and Zhu Jiu's revenue stream
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 16


Who else has found their way into Sang Zan's pillar cave in the last hundred years (assuming another entrance)?

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Da Qing (he doesn't remember)
9 (56.2%)

a family of hibernating bears (they had very strange dreams)
13 (81.2%)

Wu Xie, Zhang Qiling, and Pang Zi
9 (56.2%)

Jill Pole, Eustace Scrubb, and Puddleglum
3 (18.8%)

Gollum
5 (31.2%)

other
2 (12.5%)

When Ma Gui and Fu You created the Hallows, why did they call them "sacred"/"the Hallows"?

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hubris
4 (25.0%)

psyops
2 (12.5%)

the inventions turned out a whole lot more powerful than expected, and they named them as a warning
10 (62.5%)

the Hallows announced how they wanted to be addressed, singularly and collectively
5 (31.2%)

other
1 (6.2%)

How does Zhu Jiu pay off the fight club manager/afford his visits to the hair stylist?

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Dixing currency/gold
5 (31.2%)

busking
1 (6.2%)

part-time job in the service industry (he’s always late, but no one dares dock his pay)
2 (12.5%)

he mugs ordinary people
8 (50.0%)

he mugs muggers (not on principle; it just cuts out the middle man)
10 (62.5%)

he has a Givealittle and/or Patreon
2 (12.5%)

other (please specify in comments)
1 (6.2%)

Guardian the drama is

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glorious, oh my heart!
11 (68.8%)

the gift that keeps on giving
12 (75.0%)

shut up, it’s perfect!
9 (56.2%)

the fandom is also made of sparkles *blows kisses to everyone*
11 (68.8%)

LOLLIPOPS FOR ALL!!
11 (68.8%)

facethestrange: (guardian: weilan animated jacket)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2026-03-10 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
POLL! :D :D :D I'm so happy with the pause in the rewatch because it will probably let me catch up, and now I'm extra happy with it because POLL. :D ♡♡♡

I'm super tickled by the cave question because it's rare for me to be familiar with every single fandom option, hah, so I voted for everything. :D :D Not sure about Da Qing in the last hundred years (I'm sure had been there before Sang Zan fell in though, because in 10k years he must have been everywhere :D), but it's not unlikely. :D (Did the bears dream about energy-body bears?)

I think Ma Gui and Fu You got a bit scared by their own invention and it is a warning. *nodnod*

Zhu Jiu mugging everyone (and getting excited when he gets to mug a mugger xD) is now canon to me. Unless Ye Zun somehow pays him, I don't see him even trying to earn money any other way. :P

*SNAGS A LOLLIPOP AND FANDOM LOVE* :D ♡♡♡
trobadora: (Da Qing - megaphone)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-10 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
POLL! :D :D :D I'm so happy with the pause in the rewatch because it will probably let me catch up, and now I'm extra happy with it because POLL. :D ♡♡♡

Yay! Cheering you on for the catching-up, and I totally agree wrt POLL. :D

Not sure about Da Qing in the last hundred years (I'm sure had been there before Sang Zan fell in though, because in 10k years he must have been everywhere :D), but it's not unlikely. :D

I think it's not that likely he was there in the last 100 years, just because he doesn't strike me as the kind of person who wanders around in the mountains without reason, but yeah - in 10,000 years he must have had reason to be basically EVERYWHERE. (I wonder if Wu Xie et al. have found "Da Qing Was Here" graffiti in the most unlikely places?!)

(Did the bears dream about energy-body bears?)

Hee! :D

I think Ma Gui and Fu You got a bit scared by their own invention and it is a warning. *nodnod*

Yeah, that makes sense to me too.

Unless Ye Zun somehow pays him, I don't see him even trying to earn money any other way. :P

Yeah, he's definitely not earning money in any "normal" kind of way!

*SNAGS A LOLLIPOP AND FANDOM LOVE* :D ♡♡♡

♥ ♥ ♥

facethestrange: (guardian: zhao yunlan animated cutie pie)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2026-03-10 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
"I wonder if Wu Xie et al. have found "Da Qing Was Here" graffiti in the most unlikely places?!"

Lol! :D :D This is a canon crossover to me now! :D

I honestly have no idea what Da Qing was up to before meeting Zhao Yunlan, even as "recently" as a few decades ago? Before we talked about his random bits of knowledge recently, I hadn't even realized how much of a blank canvas his entire past is. But I hope he had lots of fun, and confused entire generations of explorers. xD :D
trobadora: (Da Qing - megaphone)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-10 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's a complete blank! We know nothing at all until the Da Ji flashbacks. I definitely hope he had a fantastic time with lots of fantastic people.

and confused entire generations of explorers. xD :D

And this, yes! :D :D :D
trobadora: (Guardian - SID team)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-10 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
POLL! :D

And hee, these are excellent questions!

For the cave, I voted for the BEARS (of course), the Iron Triangle (of course) and other - by which last I mean the most mundane option of all, LOL, namely people from Qingxi village. *g*

I do think the naming of the Hallows is because they turned out vastly more powerful than anyone could have anticipated.

And where Zhu Jiu gets his money? Steals it from everyone, yeah, but probably also blackmails some people he can't otherwise use.

Finally, Guardian is LOVE. Definitely the gift that keeps on giving! EIGHT YEARS! It just makes me so happy. :D
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[personal profile] facethestrange 2026-03-10 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
"For the cave, I voted for the BEARS (of course), the Iron Triangle (of course) and other - by which last I mean the most mundane option of all, LOL, namely people from Qingxi village. *g*"

Lol, Shen Wei would probably know which species of bears are most likely to be found in caves like that. :D

I like the mundane answer, and it makes me wonder if the caves were just a normal place for the people to visit? Like, there were never any Youchu around before, and the pillar also didn't do much of anything? (Or maybe it had been a normal place to visit before the pillar, and then it was a spooky place that they only visited on a dare. :P)

"And where Zhu Jiu gets his money? Steals it from everyone, yeah, but probably also blackmails some people he can't otherwise use."

Oh yep, I can totally see him blackmailing people too. Somehow he keeps finding all those Dixingren, so he could just threaten to reveal their secret and it would work a lot of the time.

"Finally, Guardian is LOVE. Definitely the gift that keeps on giving! EIGHT YEARS! It just makes me so happy. :D"

When I arrived in late 2024 it was just over 6 years old, and now it's going on 8! :o It still feels like I'm super new, but also time does fly. :D :D
trobadora: (Hei Pao Shi/Zhao Yunlan)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-10 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, Shen Wei would probably know which species of bears are most likely to be found in caves like that. :D

Yes! :D

Like, there were never any Youchu around before, and the pillar also didn't do much of anything? (Or maybe it had been a normal place to visit before the pillar, and then it was a spooky place that they only visited on a dare. :P)

It might have been a normal place during Hanga times, or the cavern might not have existed in that form. But afterwards, post-Hanga with Sang Zan in the pillar and all - well, in episode 8 just before Zhu Jiu kills the guard, he asks him about places associated with strange legends, and the guard looks in one particular direction. And then Zhu Jiu finds the cave. So I think you're spot on about the spooky place!

Somehow he keeps finding all those Dixingren, so he could just threaten to reveal their secret and it would work a lot of the time.

Right? He probably does find some people he can't use for his plots, but he can still extort money from them! :p

When I arrived in late 2024 it was just over 6 years old, and now it's going on 8! :o It still feels like I'm super new, but also time does fly. :D :D

I'm so glad you found us! :D
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - Lantern & Pendant)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-10 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Great point below (above?) about that canon scene with Zhu Jiu, too.

:D

I wonder how they knew. In fact, I wonder if the mystery around the Hallows was largely because in fact, MG and FY had very little idea what they'd do, when and why. ;-p

I figure that when they were created, they did some weird and unexpected stuff right away that showed Ma Gui and Fu You that instead of a reliable weapon, what they ended up was way overpowered and not something they could actually fully control.

(A foil to Cong Bo, who only wants to tell the world and gather acclaim for his "whistle-blowing". ;-p)

LOL! You're not wrong; that would fit perfectly!

♥ ♥ ♥
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - Kunlun)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-11 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they clearly didn't see that one coming! *g*
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[personal profile] trepkos 2026-03-11 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Great poll! I know that Zhu Jiu would be that busker that the shopkeepers keep complaining about because he scares away their customers, and sings out of tune while strumming inexpertly at an electric guitar.
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - screaming)

[personal profile] trobadora 2026-03-11 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
LOLOLOL!