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Slo-Mo Rewatch: Guardian episode 6, part 2
Hi, welcome to this week's instalment of the Guardian drama Slo-Mo Rewatch! Watch half an episode a week, and then come and chat about it here in comments. Or you can just jump into the comments without rewatching, of course!
Here is last week's half-episode. On to the second half!
Episode 6, from 22:44
Summary:
Zhao Yunlan returns to Zhou Weiwei and makes her admit the truth: she switched places with Mirror Girl, and that was who was engaged to Ji Xiaobai. Ji Xiaobai, having confirmed what he already knew, isn't interested in a replacement goldfish. Mirror Girl tells the Envoy about a phrase her father used to repeat.
Then Zhao Yunlan and Da Qing talk about Shen Wei being suspicious, break into his flat, find his file on the SID, and have to hide when Shen Wei arrives. Zhao Yunlan sends a smoke messenger to the Regent, and a banner with a spy camera to Shen Wei. Da Qing teases him about his interest in the Envoy. Shen Wei confronts the uni's chancellor about Li Qian withdrawing, and has a brief conversation with Zhao Yunlan. Zhu Jiu puts a new agent in play. Finally, at night, Shen Wei is mugged by two thugs.
Quote:
Da Qing: "In this world, two people can be very close, but have never seen each other. But maybe once they've met, they'll see each other every day. Destiny is unpredictable."
Zhao Yunlan: "Damn Fatty, I never knew that you were a poetic cat."
Detail:
Zhao Yunlan: 这个也很好看，衣服真漂亮。我想给我女朋友买一件，哪买的呀？
This [photo] is nice as well; pretty outfit. I want to buy one for my girlfriend. Where'd you buy it?
I remember from the early days that fandom had decided Zhao Yunlan was talking about the coat Mirror Girl was wearing in the photo, and had related it to the similar trenchcoat Shen Wei wears in later episodes. And that despite the fact that the English subs - all of them: the original ones and the ones that came later, Solo's and the Viki ones - say "shirt"! Of course the Chinese only says 衣服, clothes, and IIRC this concept originally came from the Chinese side of fandom.
Questions:
What's your favourite part in this half of the episode? Do you think Shen Wei is too harsh on Mirror Girl? Do you feel for Ji Xiaobai? for the human Zhou Weiwei? Why is Zhao Yunlan stepping up the investigation into Shen Wei? Do you think the spy camera is warranted? Why does Shen Wei respond to being mugged like that, when he could easily defeat the muggers? Any thoughts about how any of this relates to the novel?
(These are all just conversation starters - feel free to answer all, some, or none, and to say as much or as little as you like! You don't have to be keeping up with the rewatch to join in!)
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Awww! I love that idea. I thought a big part of it was also that he really wanted to know, just for himself, HOW it all happened, and whether the Mirror Girl really stole Zhou Weiwei's identity. He doesn't like unanswered questions. *g*
Is original Weiwei's attitude a metaphor for Haixing's entitlement in general, I wonder? "All the nice things belong to us and only us. These people who don't belong here are thieves and monsters." /o\
Yes, I absolutely think that's why she's so blatant about it - she's a stand-in for Haixing's attitude towards Dixing.
2. What does Weiwei even mean by "taking my body"?
I think it's just a way of saying that she took her physical appearance. Which on the one hand isn't so terrible, but on the other, a person's body is something personal and intimate, and I wouldn't blame anyone for being creeped out by someone else copying it exactly and using it for whatever.
3. Telling her she should have stayed hidden, oh Shen Wei. /o\ And "You and he are from different worlds." -- ow! That's bleak for everyone!!
Right???? I expect a large part of this is Shen Wei himself wondering if it might not have been better to stay hidden, and feeling the gap between him and Zhao Yunlan.
My favourite scene in this half-ep, just for the physicality and comfort and teasing and acceptance. They know each other so well, there's 100% friend energy, and 0% romantic chemistry, and I adore that for its own sake, as well as for the contrast with ZYL/SW. :D :D :D
Yes! It's not my favourite, but it's definitely up there, one of the best moments in the episode. I really love the dynamic between Zhao Yunlan and Da Qing.
6. What on earth is Lin Jing doing on his computer at 32:34?? Did he plant a tracker on SW???
It looked to me like he was tracking down where Shen Wei actually lives, since Zhao Yunlan only knew he'd moved into the neighbourhood. As for the time, it sometimes looks like Lin Jing basically lives in the lab; he doesn't seem to go home much. *pets him*
Also, is that poetic or just philosophical?? ;-p
The content is philosophical, but I guess the phrasing is more poetic in Chinese?
8. Shen Wei's ominous approach, lol! Are we supposed to think he's dangerous? It's filmed that way.
It's one of those few places where Shen Wei gets the villain framing! But I figure it's just a way to heighten the tension about Zhao Yunlan and Da Qing being in danger of being found out.
10. Does SW sense ZYL and DQ, or does he hear the light switch? It's pretty loud, and I'm pretty sure we have indications that SW's hearing is amazingly acute...
Hmmm, could be either, I guess! Hearing would make sense to me, but so would something else.
And then I guess he searches with black energy - we don't see his hands while he's figuring out who it is, but that would make the most sense to me.
11. It's unclear to me whether the smoke messenger to the Regent and the banner were planned all along or are only a result of finding the SID file. I think the latter?
I'm not sure either - if Zhao Yunlan hadn't found anything in Shen Wei's flat, what would he have done next? I mean, he knows there is something up with Shen Wei, and he's decided he needs to know, so ... I'm just not sure.
I wonder if, at this stage, he's guessed that there's someone orchestrating all these cases, and now he's wondering if he's been wrong all along and it might be Shen Wei? Like, has he mistaken Shen Wei for Zhu Jiu??
He just doesn't give off that vibe at all, IMO. I think he'd be a lot more hurt and angry if he seriously thought Shen Wei was a villain who had been playing him this entire time. The way I see it, he's found something incredibly suspicious, but he literally can't bring himself to believe Shen Wei is a villain, so he's going to extremes to try and prove it. Even though you can't really prove a negative that way.
12. Kinda love that it's DQ who lights the incense
Oh! Somehow I missed that! Excellent. :D
13. SW greets CSZ like he wasn't interrogated by him two episodes ago, lol.
As if he barely recognises him! Hee!
Shen Wei is polite about it, but it must contribute to his exasperated reaction to the book con, surely.
Seriously!
14. ZYL: "I have to maintain a good relationship with him." Have to!!! Zero choice here!! Just look how gorgeous he is!!! ;D :D :D :D
LOLOLOL! :D
15. Da Qing's expression when he says, "Or probing Professor Shen?" LOLOLOL!!! I really hope that's as smutty-sounding in Chinese! :D
I don't think so, but I don't know for sure. Great translation choice, anyway!
16. I'm a little perplexed by DQ defending SW ("My dear Chief Zhao, I must criticize you. Are all you humans so suspicious? Professor Shen has helped us so much.") after they found the SID file. I mean, that's pretty solid proof that SW is someone to keep eyes on, surely?
I guess Da Qing is just more willing to shrug these things off and go by vibe. *g*
18. This time around, I was sure the Chancellor had actually encouraged/pressured LQ to leave, to pressure/send a signal to Shen Wei to stay in line and distance himself from the SID.
Yeah, totally agreed on that. :(
I still think this screencap beautifully encapsulates SW's dilemma, caught between the university and the SID.
Yeah, that's so striking! And also perfectly emblematic of how Zhao Yunlan, presumably without meaning to, is causing trouble for Shen Wei. The Chancellor wants him to distance himself from the SID, and here Zhao Yunlan is lurking right in the background!
But is this what he thinks a good Dixingren in Haixing should be like? /o\
I'm not sure. I think he demands more of himself than of others, most of the time.
He has his limits and his pride, though, refusing to apologise. Yessss!!
YES! And he's so unimpressed with the muggers, LOL. No wonder they're completely baffled by him!
21. and I really noticed that when Shen Wei said, "This info you gave me is not complete. But, interestingly, you've already told me your doubts." (11:39), ZYL has a reaction I can't quite read. He looks... checkmated, maybe? And leans back. Is he reacting to Shen Wei identifying the gaps in the info and reading between the lines? (And what exactly was it that ZYL didn't tell?)
Oh, good catch! *rewatches*
He has a reaction when Shen Wei says the info must not be complete, and then again (with leaning back) when he says he's already told him. I think the first bit is definitely about Shen Wei noticing gaps in the info, but I have no idea what those are and what he means by Zhao Yunlan already telling him. Perhaps just that the bathroom and the dressing room were named, but the presence of mirrors wasn't? Idk.
I think Shen Wei is caught in a really difficult position. He wants his people to be able to live well in Haixing, but it's his job to deport them if he catches them. Presumably there's only so many he can divert to upstate or wherever, and once there's paperwork he has a lot less discretion. (That might be why he had to deport Wu Xiaojun?)
Yeah, that's a good point about the presence of paperwork. He managed it with Wang Yike, but surely the more often he does it, the more likely it is that someone will notice ...
More for Ji Xiaobai than original Weiwei, but I like to think they both overcame their prejudice in time.
Yeah, same here!
The Envoy being willing to tolerate Dixingren living quietly in Haixing must also free ZYL up to investigate -- if he discovers SW is Dixingren, it won't automatically lead to deportation.
Yeah, that has to be an important point!
But oh, this makes me think that the SID really should have recruited a Flower Yashou for stakeouts! ;-p
Hee! :D
Also, I think SW feels that beating up human muggers is beneath his dignity. They're not wrong about him being proud, after all. ;-p
Yes! I totally agree. It's not just that he's being a model Dixingren, he also probably thinks it's beneath the Black-Cloaked Envoy's dignity to bother with these guys. *g*
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Oh, that's true, too. Good point!
> Which on the one hand isn't so terrible, but on the other, a person's body is something personal and intimate, and I wouldn't blame anyone for being creeped out by someone else copying it exactly and using it for whatever.
That is a really great point. And even if she originally agreed to the idea, I can see how it could get creepier and creepier. /o\
> I expect a large part of this is Shen Wei himself wondering if it might not have been better to stay hidden, and feeling the gap between him and Zhao Yunlan.
Do you think so? Even when ZYL is making such great progress, largely as a result of Shen Wei's influence? That seems a strange thing for him to be feeling when ZYL has just agreed to a new unofficial policy for the SID.
> It looked to me like he was tracking down where Shen Wei actually lives, since Zhao Yunlan only knew he'd moved into the neighbourhood.
It's just a weirdly geospatial program to be using for something that's just an address? Idk! (I presumed the lateness of the hour was specifically so that ZYL & DQ could go breaking and entering after dark. *g*)
> But I figure it's just a way to heighten the tension about Zhao Yunlan and Da Qing being in danger of being found out.
True. And maybe a hint of "outsider POV" or "guilty!ZYL-tilted POV", even though he doesn't witness that himself? Idk.
> And then I guess he searches with black energy - we don't see his hands while he's figuring out who it is, but that would make the most sense to me.
It could be black energy, or he could still be listening at that stage. After all, he wouldn't want to be caught using energy, even by an intruder.
> if Zhao Yunlan hadn't found anything in Shen Wei's flat, what would he have done next? I mean, he knows there is something up with Shen Wei, and he's decided he needs to know, so ... I'm just not sure.
Confronted him outright? Idk either.
> He just doesn't give off that vibe at all, IMO. I think he'd be a lot more hurt and angry if he seriously thought Shen Wei was a villain who had been playing him this entire time. The way I see it, he's found something incredibly suspicious, but he literally can't bring himself to believe Shen Wei is a villain, so he's going to extremes to try and prove it. Even though you can't really prove a negative that way.
Yes, now that you say all that and I've thought about it, I agree. I like the idea of him mistaking SW for ZJ in an AU misunderstanding way, but you're right, there's zero reason to think it's canon (and lots of reasons to think it's not).
> I guess Da Qing is just more willing to shrug these things off and go by vibe. *g*
LOL, I think ZYL absolutely would too if he weren't the chief of the SID.
> And also perfectly emblematic of how Zhao Yunlan, presumably without meaning to, is causing trouble for Shen Wei. The Chancellor wants him to distance himself from the SID, and here Zhao Yunlan is lurking right in the background!
Yes, but only because SW has been deliberately getting his attention all along, so... it's not like SW doesn't want him there, you know? (Well, maybe SW wants to compartmentalise more than ZYL will go along with...)
> I think he demands more of himself than of others, most of the time.
Yes, true.
> but I have no idea what those are and what he means by Zhao Yunlan already telling him. Perhaps just that the bathroom and the dressing room were named, but the presence of mirrors wasn't? Idk.
Yes, maybe. Or maybe ZYL was trying to exercise appropriate departmental discretion, and SW easily inferred the missing parts? *g*
> he also probably thinks it's beneath the Black-Cloaked Envoy's dignity to bother with these guys. *g*
It's a shame he can't just portal them to a police station...
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No, you're right, after the discussion in the comments I think Shen Wei is just really feeling the tension between hiding (parts of himself) and revealing (parts of himself).
I presumed the lateness of the hour was specifically so that ZYL & DQ could go breaking and entering after dark. *g*
Yeah, agreed! Though during the day (ideally while Shen Wei is holding a lecture and therefore definitely can't interrupt them) might have been a better choice if they could avoid being caught by the neighbours.
It could be black energy, or he could still be listening at that stage. After all, he wouldn't want to be caught using energy, even by an intruder.
But there's nothing to hear when he realises it's Zhao Yunlan - he has to be discovering this some other way.
I like the idea of him mistaking SW for ZJ in an AU misunderstanding way, but you're right, there's zero reason to think it's canon (and lots of reasons to think it's not).
Yeah. It's definitely a set-up for an AU that would work very well!
> And also perfectly emblematic of how Zhao Yunlan, presumably without meaning to, is causing trouble for Shen Wei. The Chancellor wants him to distance himself from the SID, and here Zhao Yunlan is lurking right in the background!
Yes, but only because SW has been deliberately getting his attention all along, so... it's not like SW doesn't want him there, you know?
Oh, yeah, Shen Wei definitely wants him there! It's just that I think Zhao Yunlan isn't aware at all that his presence is causing trouble (because Shen Wei isn't telling him).
It's a shame he can't just portal them to a police station...
I wish SOMEONE would take them there! *grumbles*
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Ooh, and seeing the potential cost of hiding parts of himself, mirrored in the Mirror Girl's story. Oof!
Though during the day (ideally while Shen Wei is holding a lecture and therefore definitely can't interrupt them) might have been a better choice if they could avoid being caught by the neighbours.
True -- but I wonder if this was an official SID operation, or if it's semi-unofficial. After all, if it were on-book, it might have to be reported to the Inspectorate. /o\ (I don't think involving Lin Jing makes it official -- but I do wonder if Lin Jing told Professor Ouyang. /o\)
But there's nothing to hear when he realises it's Zhao Yunlan - he has to be discovering this some other way.
Two sets of heartbeat and breathing, one possibly distinctively Cat Yashou? And maybe Da Qing's response to ZYL's shushing him -- we don't know if he replies.
It's just that I think Zhao Yunlan isn't aware at all that his presence is causing trouble (because Shen Wei isn't telling him).
Yes. You'd think ZYL might have got a hint from this scene, with LQ effectively being encouraged to leave. But I think ZYL forgets sometimes how weird the disreputable the SID is (while at other times playing that up deliberately).
I wish SOMEONE would take them there! *grumbles*
ME TOO!!! *grumbles with*
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Yes! This!!!!!!!!!
True -- but I wonder if this was an official SID operation, or if it's semi-unofficial. After all, if it were on-book, it might have to be reported to the Inspectorate. /o\ (I don't think involving Lin Jing makes it official -- but I do wonder if Lin Jing told Professor Ouyang. /o\)
I agree, it's probably semi-unofficial. And I don't think Lin Jing would tell Professor Ouyang without a particular reason to - I don't think he just reports on everything that's happening at the SID.
Two sets of heartbeat and breathing, one possibly distinctively Cat Yashou? And maybe Da Qing's response to ZYL's shushing him -- we don't know if he replies.
I didn't think Shen Wei's hearing was that acute without using black energy. And I definitely got the impression that Da Qing shut up. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. :)
But I think ZYL forgets sometimes how weird the disreputable the SID is (while at other times playing that up deliberately).
He really does! And IMO he's also not used to actually caring about what effect he may have on outsiders, other than when he's deliberately politicking. He's not really let anyone other than Da Qing get close enough that he'd have to care about other people's opinions of them, and, well, Da Qing is a cat. *g*
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And even his terrible (respectable) father doesn't think that SID is that weird. Or at least, doesn't think DQ is weird.