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The Gauche in the Machine ([personal profile] china_shop) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2025-09-20 06:06 pm

Slo-Mo Rewatch: Guardian episode 2, part 1

Zhao Yunlan sprawled on a couch, grinning at his phone. The background shows a purply sky with stars. Text reads "Slo-Mo Rewatch. Guardian - half an episode per week @ sid-guardian.dreamwidth.org."


Hi, and welcome back to the Guardian drama Slo-Mo Rewatch. Watch half an episode a week, at your leisure, and then come and chat about it here in comments. Or you can just jump into the comments without rewatching, of course!

Here are the previous weeks' rewatch posts.

Episode 2, up to 22:11

Summary
Shen Wei heals his shoulder while the fish in his aquarium look on. Zhu Jiu plays chess and schemes to get the Sundial. Zhao Yunlan and Shen Wei save Li Qian from falling off the building, then she faints. Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan take her to the hospital and discuss, among other things, Shen Wei's marital status. They make a lunch date. Lin Jing, Wang Zheng and Zhu Hong watch footage of the Envoy's appearance, until Chu Shuzhi makes them delete it. Guo Changcheng and cat!Da Qing stake out the hospital to protect Li Qian. Shen Wei shows up with food. Watching from the SID, Zhu Hong identifies Li Qian's necklace as the Longevity Dial, and Zhao Yunlan concludes Li Qian killed her grandmother. Changcheng tackles the hospital attacker, is knocked out, and then Shen Wei plain-clothes Envoys the attacker out of the ward just as Zhao Yunlan arrives. The hospital attacker and Chu Shuzhi fight in the street, and the attacker escapes.



Quote
ZYL: I'll treat you to lunch once this case is solved.
SW: No need... When that happens, it should be my treat.

Detail
I think this is the first time I've noticed that when Zhao Yunlan catches Xiao-Guo at the hospital, he repeats his "I've got your back" from earlier. Zhao Yunlan seems quite shaken, to me, realising he sent Xiao-Guo into genuine danger.

Questions
Do you have a favourite scene or quote from the first half of episode 2? What is Shen Wei thinking when he sees Zhao Yunlan's graze? On a scale of 1 to 10, how sorry do you feel for Li Qian? How much bandage does a person need for a grazed arm? What do you think of Zhao Yunlan's management style? Were you surprised by the passing of time in this half-episode (at the hospital, we learn Li Yufen died two days earlier; at the SID, Zhao Yunlan says Xiao-Guo has been there for a week)? When Zhu Hong warns Zhao Yunlan about Shen Wei, do you think that's genuine suspicion or can she already tell which way the wind is blowing? Do you think Xiao-Guo manages to be successfully supportive at Li Qian's bedside? What's your impression of the hospital attacker, Gao Tianyu? Do you find him sympathetic? On a scale of 1 to 10, how hot is plain-clothes Envoy!Shen Wei?

If you're familiar with the novel, any thoughts about how the drama adaptation compares? The novel!SID team versus the drama!SID team? Anything else?

(As usual, these are all just conversation starters - feel free to answer all, some, or none, and to say as much or as little as you like! You don't have to be keeping up with the rewatch to join in. We'd love to hear your thoughts!)

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trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-09-22 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Shen Wei heals his shoulder while the fish in his aquarium look on.

LOL! I always figure it's just doing things with framing, background and foreground, like so many other places in the drama.

and then Shen Wei plain-clothes Envoys the attacker out of the ward just as Zhao Yunlan arrives

SUCH a delight, that scene! :D

Zhao Yunlan: I'll treat you to lunch once this case is solved.
Shen Wei: No need... When that happens, it should be my treat.


I love that moment so much. Mutual pursuit! :D

I think this is the first time I've noticed that when Zhao Yunlan catches Xiao-Guo at the hospital, he repeats his "I've got your back" from earlier.

Oh! I totally missed that. You're right, it's exactly the same except that he originally says "we" (我们与你同在) and at the hospital it's "I" (我与你同在). And he does look tense - no more flippancy now; things are serious and he's starting to realise quite how much so.

Do you have a favourite scene or quote from the first half of episode 2?

You quoted my favourite lines!

What is Shen Wei thinking when he sees Zhao Yunlan's graze?

*clenches hand into fist* MUST NOT REACH OUT TO HEAL, MUST NOT REACH OUT TO HEAL ... *g*

Were you surprised by the passing of time in this half-episode (at the hospital, we learn Li Yufen died two days earlier; at the SID, Zhao Yunlan says Xiao-Guo has been there for a week)?

A little, because I didn't remember it in detail, but I feel like it makes sense for there to be a bit of a break between the two cases. (I think the time skip happens in between Shen Wei's self-healing and Zhao Yunlan returning to the university, so, right where Zhu Jiu's scene is, with his plotting. Presumably it took him a little time at least to arrange for a new recruit, since he must have thought the Shadow Man was plenty enough?

When Zhu Hong warns Zhao Yunlan about Shen Wei, do you think that's genuine suspicion or can she already tell which way the wind is blowing?

I think both. (And Zhao Yunlan gets flustered at it, which must confirm her in her suspicions, hee!)

Do you think Xiao-Guo manages to be successfully supportive at Li Qian's bedside?

It does seem to be cathartic for her. I know people have said that Guo Changcheng makes it all about himself, but I feel like it's validating to hear from someone with similar feelings. And of course he inadvertently hits on her Sundial trauma when he talks about exchanging his life for his grandma's, which makes it really spot on! (I always forget that Xiao-Guo says it first ...)

What's your impression of the hospital attacker, Gao Tianyu? Do you find him sympathetic?

We know so little about him, but his whole attitude makes me think Zhu Jiu may have recruited him at the underground fight club, which does make him sympathetic to me since none of the people there seem to have great circumstances.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how hot is plain-clothes Envoy!Shen Wei?

Very! The only thing that could make it hotter would be if he took off his glasses. *g*

On to my notes:
  • A detail I noticed in the opening credits this time: in the shot of Dragon City at night, right at the start of the credits, the visual effects make it look as if there are two moons. The actual shot as used in the drama elsewhere only shows one moon, but now I'm feeling like giving Haixing two moons anyway in my next fic or so. *g*

    Dragon City at night (two moons) Dragon City at night (one moon)

  • I'm always so delighted that the person helping Shen Wei out of the bushes is Jiajia, even if we only get a fraction-of-a-second shot of her.

  • The way Shen Wei just points towards the rooftop to ask about what happened up there (because of course he would want to know if he wasn't, you know, the Envoy) without actually saying anything! Hee!

  • When I reach the healing scene it always hits me again that Shen Wei had these obviously painful scratches all the way through his appearance as the Envoy, and then as he climbed out of the bushes. And that he deliberately let the Shadow Man hit him so he could convincingly disappear from the scene!

  • Our first Zhu Jiu appearance! We get right away that he fancies himself a mastermind, what with the xiangqi board. And our second soon-to-be attacker (Gao Tianyu) is talking himself up as better than the Shadow Man. I wonder if they actually knew each other, or if all he knows is what Zhu Jiu told him. (But Zhu Jiu might have recruited both of them at the underground fight club, in which case they might have known each other? Oh no, now I want fic about the two of them, and Zhu Jiu playing them against each other, and then possibly having a reunion after the Envoy captures them both ...)

  • One of my favourite bits: Zhao Yunlan thinking about when he might have met Shen Wei before, proving that there really is something real there!

  • I wonder what Zhao Yunlan would have done if Li Qian hadn't been on the roof. Some days have passed; what is he doing at the university? Presumably going to poke either Shen Wei or Li Qian or both of them some more.

  • If Zhao Yunlan hadn't appeared and made her slip (and then saved her), would Li Qian have jumped? I don't think so, but I'm not sure. She's lost her grandma, and she feels guilty and desperate, and she's been at the end of her rope for some time. Poor Li Qian.

  • Shen Wei's appearance on the roof, just in time: he must have either seen Li Qian, or heard some of the talk as other people noticed her up there, and then Wu Tian'en's teleportation power or a portal would have taken him up there very quickly. But from Zhao Yunlan's POV, his sudden appearance must be suspicious, too. Not that it seems nefarious, but that it's just a bit too convenient to be true?

  • Such a great teamwork shot, Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan pulling Li Qian up together!

  • I always feel extra vindicated when Zhao Yunlan is being demanding and abrasive with the doctor, and Shen Wei steps in to smooth things over. You don't see it as much nowadays, but it used to be very common for fandom to treat Shen Wei as socially inept, but he really isn't.

  • You can see Zhao Yunlan coming to attention when the doctor mentions the grandma died from an overdose of sleeping pills! And then a second time when the doctor mentions the grandma cheating death a year ago and Zhao Yunlan sees Li Qian cry! (Is she really still unconscious at that point? I figure if Zhao Yunlan thought she wasn't, he'd push her.)

  • "A stolen life is hard to maintain," says Shen Wei, and as usual I wonder what exactly he means.

  • I adore the conversation in the corridor! The "my treat" bit especially, but also Shen Wei touching his previously-injured shoulder (for effect? or is it still aching days later? maybe a little of both), and the push-and-pull over Zhao Yunlan questioning Shen Wei. And the way Shen Wei redirects Zhao Yunlan from Dixingren biology (which is actually a reasonable thing to ask of Professor Shen!) to their future.

  • As we talked about before, this scene doesn't quite fit with the continuity - the thing about Dixingren frequently appearing when there's been exactly one, and "that time at the hospital" ... It must have originally been elsewhere, and was shifted here for some reason. Perhaps because there were too many separate hospital scenes? *g*)

  • Shen Wei has advocated for Dixingren before, and how he warns Zhao Yunlan about dangerous Dixing powers. He's not saying they're harmless, while still saying they're not so different - I think that makes Zhao Yunlan take him more seriously.

  • LOL @ Lin Jing wondering why the Envoy was so lenient with Zhao Yunlan!

    The whole gossiping scene is a delight. And Chu Shuzhi so cranky, complaining about everything. *pets him* And Zhu Hong has no idea how true her words about Chu Shuzhi coming to appreciate the newbie are going to be!

    (Zhu Hong's teasing is a bit too mocking for my tastes, but then this is early on and Lao-Chu isn't fully part of the group yet. Lin Jing, Zhu Hong and Wang Zheng definitely are, though!)

  • Zhao Yunlan is still messing with Guo Changcheng, telling him he'll have to improvise if there's an attack, and not-very-seriously saying they'll have his back. Only to then be almost too late to really have his back!

  • Even GCC notices that Shen Wei seems to know Zhao Yunlan well, hee! And that's before Shen Wei gives him a speech about the difficulties of Zhao Yunlan's job, LOL.

  • DQ seems to have gone off to warn Zhao Yunlan about Shen Wei taking too much interest in him, which is why he isn't on the scene when Gao Tianyu attacks. I wonder if he could have fought him?

  • Every time I wonder where the schematics of the Hallows come from, and how Lin Jing knows about them when Zhao Yunlan doesn't. (And every time I LOL at the Sundial being upside down!)

  • Zhao Yunlan is a cynic at this point. When he learns about the Sundial, he immediately suspects Li Qian of having stolen her grandma's life.

  • I want to know what "abnormal vital signs" are, and how Lin Jing can measure them over a surveillance camera! (And also why no other Dixingren are detectable like that!)

  • Everything about Shen Wei during Gao Tianyu's attack is a delight to me, right from him noticing the first attack/black energy usage from a distance. One of my favourite moments is when they face off: Shen Wei looks down and waits, and Gao Tianyu's power has no effect on him, and only after that attack does he look up and tell Gao Tianyu to stand down. That look! :D

  • And Xiao-Guo being so determined and brave, rushing to protect Shen Wei and Li Qian! His initial appearance hit my embarrassment squick hard, but here there's nothing of that any more.

  • I'm also fascinated by Chu Shuzhi's energy barrier, which (like the puppet fight) we don't see in the rest of the series. Gao Tianyu recognises it as puppet strings - that power must be very distinctive, to be so well known. And since Chu Shuzhi has been in prison for a long time, are/were there others from his family/clan with that power still active in Dixing?
Edited 2025-09-22 21:56 (UTC)
trobadora: (Chu Shuzhi - detecting)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-09-23 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but sometimes when they pull back to a plant or something, it's actually one of Ying Chun's spies. ;-p

Haha, point!

Do you think the Shadow Man could have been at the fight club? I feel like he'd have been too conspicuous. I assumed Zhu Jiu or Ye Zun had brought him up from Dixing.

Do you think the Shadow Man is always in shadow-form? He does have a human form, which we see when he dies - I assumed it was his choice to appear as a shadow whenever the situation is dangerous.

And agreed about Zhu Hong's teasing. But it makes their later teaminess so much sweeter that they're starting from this point. :D

Good point! But I'm glad it's not just me. *g*

I think that's a bit of a (much-needed) wake-up call for him.

Yeah, agreed. Until this he hasn't really caught on to just how dangerous things are getting. They handled the Shadow Man well enough, but Gao Tianyu is more resourceful apparently.

I have a poll question about that which I mean to recycle. Note to self!

Ooh, yes please! :D

I can't remember who is was who first theorised that the barrier might be a string stretched wide, but it's slipped irrevocably into my headcanon. :D

It was [personal profile] awanderingcoyote, here.
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - bench)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-09-23 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there's no actual canon evidence either way, so both interpretations are plausible. I just think it's interesting that we made opposite assumtions. *g*

And good point about ZYL not being present for any actual fighting yet!
belovedstill: (Default)

[personal profile] belovedstill 2025-09-23 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
When I reach the healing scene it always hits me again that Shen Wei had these obviously painful scratches all the way through his appearance as the Envoy, and then as he climbed out of the bushes.
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(...) Shen Wei touching his previously-injured shoulder (for effect? or is it still aching days later? maybe a little of both)

Yes! That's what hit me during the rewatch, too! He's sweating through his clothes, clearly in so much pain and it takes quite some effort to heal the injury. After the fall he's behaving as if nothing happened, you can see nothing in his face nor in his body language which tempts me now to let my brain default to "Shen Wei is in company + he's been previously hurt = he's in pain at any given moment and just not showing it". This makes the fact that he rubs at his shoulder (subconsciously?) when he's around just Zhao Yunlan all the more interesting. Does he have some intention behind it or is the memory of "you're not alone anymore (you've got me now)" Kunlun told him 10,000 years ago playing in his mind rn? I'm leaning toward the latter, I like that he has that little moment of slipping and showing he's not as unhurt as he pretends to be.
And! That gesture leads to Zhao Yunlan asking whether he's married. We have the progression of: [Li Qian and her grandmother were all the family each other had] > [this strikes a chord with Shen Wei (because of Ye Zun? because of Kunlun?)] > [Shen Wei rubs at his (hurt) shoulder and Zhao Yunlan notices.] > (ZYL's possible thoughts: "oh. he did get hurt.", "we're at the hospital and he's not getting it treated - is there somebody at home to help him with it?", "that would get me some clues on Shen Wei's situation") > ["Are you married?" :D]

Even GCC notices that Shen Wei seems to know Zhao Yunlan well, hee! And that's before Shen Wei gives him a speech about the difficulties of Zhao Yunlan's job, LOL.

I've watched that episode several times by now but because of this rewatch I'm paying extra attention and!!! I never thought much of this exchange beyond "aww, he's trying to defend Zhao Yunlan's image 😌 best PR agent for real" but now I can't stop and realise—he's speaking from experience. We learn much much later that Shen Wei is stuck in the position of a leader who's respected and looked up to, yes, but ultimately held on a pedestal, and that position has always been Shen Wei's loneliest. "That's right; it's not easy being a leader," Guo Changcheng says, and Shen Way looks down with a smile.
Edited 2025-09-23 17:11 (UTC)
facethestrange: (guardian: weilan animated jacket)

[personal profile] facethestrange 2025-09-23 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
""Shen Wei is in company + he's been previously hurt = he's in pain at any given moment and just not showing it". This makes the fact that he rubs at his shoulder (subconsciously?) when he's around just Zhao Yunlan all the more interesting. Does he have some intention behind it or is the memory of "you're not alone anymore (you've got me now)" Kunlun told him 10,000 years ago playing in his mind rn? I'm leaning toward the latter, I like that he has that little moment of slipping and showing he's not as unhurt as he pretends to be."

*SOBS* Omg, I love absolutely everything about this observation, like, the first line already hit me right in the feels and then it kept getting even more heart-melting. ♡♡♡ This is beautiful and YES, yes please. ♡♡♡

"That gesture leads to Zhao Yunlan asking whether he's married. We have the progression of: [Li Qian and her grandmother were all the family each other had] > [this strikes a chord with Shen Wei (because of Ye Zun? because of Kunlun?)] > [Shen Wei rubs at his (hurt) shoulder and Zhao Yunlan notices.] > (ZYL's possible thoughts: "oh. he did get hurt.", "we're at the hospital and he's not getting it treated - is there somebody at home to help him with it?", "that would get me some clues on Shen Wei's situation") > ["Are you married?" :D]"

And this is now my favorite explanation for why he asks this question!! :D (I've been wondering about it for a while, and a lot of different explanations make a lot of sense, but tying it to the injury this way is both so plausible and so emotionally charged and SO SOFT and I love it so much!)

"We learn much much later that Shen Wei is stuck in the position of a leader who's respected and looked up to, yes, but ultimately held on a pedestal, and that position has always been Shen Wei's loneliest."

Yessss! ♡ And young, and no one cutting him any slack for being young - he doesn't want the same for Zhao Yunlan. ♡

(Also, hiiiii! *tackleglomps you gently* :D :D :D)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - young Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-09-23 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And young, and no one cutting him any slack for being young - he doesn't want the same for Zhao Yunlan. ♡

YES!!!! ♥ ♥ ♥
belovedstill: (Default)

[personal profile] belovedstill 2025-09-23 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
(I've been wondering about it for a while, and a lot of different explanations make a lot of sense, but tying it to the injury this way is both so plausible and so emotionally charged and SO SOFT and I love it so much!)

Trust me, I looked very very closely at that scene, frame by frame, and it really goes like this: SW rubs his arm, ZYL notices, looks at the arm, then at SW's face, then back at the arm, huffs a laugh, then asks the question. I am so convinced :D (I went looking for a gif of exactly what I mean but the closest one is the first in this set, it starts a little too late to properly catch what I mean but still good!)

And young, and no one cutting him any slack for being young - he doesn't want the same for Zhao Yunlan. ♡

You're right 😭 Wow. So one of the first thing they do upon meeting the young version of each other is make sure the other person doesn't go through the same brand of sadness (anymore) c':

(Also, hiiiii! *tackleglomps you gently* :D :D :D)

Hiiii <333 Thank you again for letting me know of the slo-mo rewatch, it's such a great idea and I'm already having so much fun with it 🥺
trobadora: (Guardian - SID team)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-09-23 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what hit me during the rewatch, too!

Right? He's there all stern and calm as the Envoy, and then smiling as Professor Shen, giving zero sign that anything's wrong!

This makes the fact that he rubs at his shoulder (subconsciously?) when he's around just Zhao Yunlan all the more interesting. Does he have some intention behind it or is the memory of "you're not alone anymore (you've got me now)" Kunlun told him 10,000 years ago playing in his mind rn? I'm leaning toward the latter, I like that he has that little moment of slipping and showing he's not as unhurt as he pretends to be.

OHHH that is a sweet thought, I hadn't put it together with that specific line from his memory! But that has to be on his mind, yes. And he wants that back so badly, I could totally see it affecting him subconsciously that way.

And I like your proposed progression - you're right, Zhao Yunlan absolutely must notice it when Shen Wei rubs his shoulder like that, and since he's not aware of the claws of course he'd think it came from Gao Tianyu's attack!

I've watched that episode several times by now but because of this rewatch I'm paying extra attention and!!!

Hee! That's the best part about these rewatches, I love it when I suddenly notice something I didn't before. :D

(HI! Great to have you here!)

but now I can't stop and realise—he's speaking from experience. We learn much much later that Shen Wei is stuck in the position of a leader who's respected and looked up to, yes, but ultimately held on a pedestal, and that position has always been Shen Wei's loneliest.

YES! And he calls Zhao Yunlan young, the same way he himself was young back when he met Kunlun. :D

(I really love the way the time loop connects them together, with each of them already knowing who the other will become when they first meet them. ♥ ♥ ♥)
belovedstill: (Default)

[personal profile] belovedstill 2025-09-23 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
And he calls Zhao Yunlan young, the same way he himself was young back when he met Kunlun. :D

Y e s 😭 (I'll cry about this more when we get to that episode, but he looked. so. young.) (Zhu Yilong must be a shapeshifter.)

(I really love the way the time loop connects them together, with each of them already knowing who the other will become when they first meet them. ♥ ♥ ♥)

Me too, me too, me too! It messes with my brain in the best possible way
belovedstill: (Default)

[personal profile] belovedstill 2025-09-23 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
(also HELLO! I'm sorry, I got too excited both times and forgot to say hi 😅 thanks for the warm welcome!)
trobadora: (Luo Fusheng - facepalm)

[personal profile] trobadora 2025-09-23 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, sorry, I was thinking about where this scene might have been originally placed, but as it stands, you're totally right and he has to be assuming it's from the fall.
belovedstill: (Default)

[personal profile] belovedstill 2025-09-23 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yesss, that's what I thought! Since ZYL saw him being helped up after he'd fallen off the roof, and SW was suspiciously "quite alright" and full of smiles :'D