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sid_guardian2025-05-08 10:10 am
Poll: Shen Wei's Clark Kent moments (drama)
What's your favourite of Shen Wei's lies, obfuscations and misdirects?
"I am an ordinary person. I have no right to interfere with these things." (ep 1)
2 (7.7%)
holding his hip as Jiajia helps him out of the bushes, after he fell off the biology dept (ep 2)
9 (34.6%)
climbing to his feet, rubbing his very lower back in the hospital (ep 2)
5 (19.2%)
being trapped in the car while the hospital attacker goes after Li Qian (ep 2)
3 (11.5%)
"I really was at the wrong place at the wrong time," during the interrogation (ep 4)
5 (19.2%)
pretending his arm wasn't just bleeding a second ago (ep 4)
3 (11.5%)
deliberately pricking his finger to make it bleed (ep 4)
8 (30.8%)
don't ask me about Dixingren; let's talk about bears (ep 7)
11 (42.3%)
"I have a magical sixth sense." (ep 8)
3 (11.5%)
the innocent smile from the balcony, during the Hanga arc (ep 11)
5 (19.2%)
"To be honest, I'm just a normal person who happens to be unlucky. I don't know why, but I somehow became involved in these strange cases. And that's all there is to it." (ep 12)
2 (7.7%)
"I work out a lot." (ep 13)
13 (50.0%)
in the car, post-Envoy reveal, "I'm just an ordinary..." *trails off* (ep 14)
10 (38.5%)
other
4 (15.4%)
Thanks to
trobadora for help compiling the list. :D
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Heeee, I LOVE THIS SO MUCH THO - he would have all the gifts for Zhao Yunlan (and Da Qing, and all of SID). :D :D :D Cat-shaped DQ can kick and eviscerate the teddy bears. ;D
[ETA: I am legit writing a fic about this right now because another comm had the prompt 'teddy bear' and I just couldn't resist when I saw it. :D :D :D I'm even attempting to finish it tonight but I probably shouldn't because sleep is a thing. xD]
[ETA 2: Yeah, sleep is overrated, fic wanted to happen. :D :D It's here. :D :D]
"I think he has super-acute hearing (like DQ). I don't know if it's a power, though."
Yeah, idk either, but I'm thinking it may be a power because DQ obviously has cat-hearing, and I'm assuming other Dixingren have regular human-like hearing.
"I don't know how I feel about colonisers corralling this semi-sentient species and forbidding them to roam over their traditional lands, though... /dork"
Yeah, I'd definitely not feel good about that either! But it's clearly a novel residue (not recontextualized enough, as you said elsewhere) where this is more-or-less what's happening, and also it is a pretty terrible regime in the drama too. Maybe post-canon they can make a more fair arrangement. :) (If the youchu don't like light, maybe there are still dark part of Dixing somewhere outside the city and they'll stay there willingly. :))
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!!!! *cheers you on* So much fun! :D :D :D
ETA: LOL, you posted just as I was commenting! Congrats on finishing! :D
But it's clearly a novel residue (not recontextualized enough, as you said elsewhere) where this is more-or-less what's happening, and also it is a pretty terrible regime in the drama too.
Agreed about the novel thing. I don't like the idea of this being part of the set-up of Dixing as a whole, but the current regime being terrible can definitely be part of things! Still, what I'd like best would be drama-verse worldbuilding that makes it not-terrible overall. *greedy*
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"Still, what I'd like best would be drama-verse worldbuilding that makes it not-terrible overall. *greedy*
Oh, ITA! Any ideas what could make it not terrible? Because it sounds pretty terrible to me no matter how I look at it. *pokes this concept*
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Sleep well! ♥
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Still, what I'd like best would be drama-verse worldbuilding that makes it not-terrible overall. *greedy*
Yeah. I'm like, it's fine if it's terrible because everyone's been misunderstanding Youchu all this time, so there's an opportunity and move to fix it, but really not okay if everyone is right about them. ;-p
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Heeee, I LOVE THIS SO MUCH THO - he would have all the gifts for Zhao Yunlan (and Da Qing, and all of SID). :D :D :D Cat-shaped DQ can kick and eviscerate the teddy bears. ;D
Haha, AWESOME! This makes me so happy! :DDD twirls you
but I'm thinking it may be a power because DQ obviously has cat-hearing, and I'm assuming other Dixingren have regular human-like hearing.
Eh, I can handwave away Shen Wei being extra special. Maybe some of his powers are on all the time, by default, so much that they've become a regular part of him. :D
and also it is a pretty terrible regime in the drama too.
Do you think it's always been awful? I've been assuming the awfulness was linked to (or coincided with) the Hallows being lost...
Anyway, yesterday I tried to semi-fix the Youchu problem, in a flashfic from the category Nobody Asked For This, Nobody Wants It, in which an original Youchu character is dying of natural causes when the SID finds them. (Srsly, no obligation!)
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Yeah, same here!
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:D :D :D It was my first time grabbing ideas from the comm and writing a fic (as opposed to drawing, which I have obviously done before :D), IT'S SO MUCH FUN! ♡
"Eh, I can handwave away Shen Wei being extra special. Maybe some of his powers are on all the time, by default, so much that they've become a regular part of him. :D"
Hee, yep, that's what I meant - not actively using a power, just having one without even thinking about it. :D
"Do you think it's always been awful? I've been assuming the awfulness was linked to (or coincided with) the Hallows being lost..."
It is my assumption too, yeah. It's just that re: Youchu I would prefer if it has always been awful because at least it would explain why they got locked up like that.
"Anyway, yesterday I tried to semi-fix the Youchu problem, in a flashfic from the category Nobody Asked For This, Nobody Wants It, in which an original Youchu character is dying of natural causes when the SID finds them. (Srsly, no obligation!)"
I saw it on ao3 before I even seeing this comment, I have it open right now! ♡ That's a very good and important and necessary category of fics, and yay for this comm inspiring all the fanworks. :D :D
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:D :D :D It was my first time grabbing ideas from the comm and writing a fic (as opposed to drawing, which I have obviously done before :D), IT'S SO MUCH FUN! ♡
Yayay! *twirls you more* :D
It's just that re: Youchu I would prefer if it has always been awful because at least it would explain why they got locked up like that.
I can easily imagine people judging them by their appearance and misunderstanding them (assuming they do have any sentience), and banishing them "for the sake of the kids" or whatever. It would only take a few incidents. And maybe the youchu didn't originally view Dixingren as "people" either -- the misunderstanding could go both ways. You know? (Ha, now I'm imagining a Tarzan-like figure -- a Dixingren who was raised by youchu, trying to return to regular Dixingren society...)
That's a very good and important and necessary category of fics
Haha, is it though? But yes, yay for this comm and its endless sprawling comment threads! :D :D :D
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Oh, yeah, I could see that. Like, it was never that malicious to begin with, just misguided, and now no one thinks about it anymore. (The execution still doesn't sit right with me though, if they're sentient. But maybe at least this could be blamed on the regime? Maybe they were just locked up before and people defended themselves when any Youchu escaped, but there were no 'formal' executions? It's not like the regime doesn't execute people.)
"And maybe the youchu didn't originally view Dixingren as "people" either -- the misunderstanding could go both ways. You know? (Ha, now I'm imagining a Tarzan-like figure -- a Dixingren who was raised by youchu, trying to return to regular Dixingren society...)"
Both of these ideas are so cool! And if the misunderstanding goes both ways, it's even easier to end up there - easier to be seen as dangerous because your existence itself is already threatening, and obviously easier to overreact and attack (which both sides did, I'm assuming).
> "That's a very good and important and necessary category of fics"
"Haha, is it though?"
It really is! Leave no corner of canon unexplored! :D :D
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The execution still doesn't sit right with me though, if they're sentient. But maybe at least this could be blamed on the regime? Maybe they were just locked up before and people defended themselves when any Youchu escaped, but there were no 'formal' executions? It's not like the regime doesn't execute people.
That's true, but the difference for me is that this time it's Shen Wei doing it. I'd like to think he's even-handed. But I guess if someone's convinced him that youchu are all evil by nature, and he's given them a space where they're allowed to live peacefully... and oh no, now I'm like this is a terrible parallel with Zhao Xinci's SID and Dixingren. /o\
And if the misunderstanding goes both ways, it's even easier to end up there - easier to be seen as dangerous because your existence itself is already threatening, and obviously easier to overreact and attack (which both sides did, I'm assuming).
Yeah, exactly!
Hmm. Zhu Jiu and Shen Wei both talk to youchu as if they understand them (though that could be rhetorical, and/or the way people IRL talk to animals). I wonder if youchu have their own language(s), whether they do understand Mandarin/Dixinghua to some degree, and whether they're capable of speaking recognisably human/Dixing languages if people would just stop to listen... (difficult to do, when you're being attacked).
<3 <3 <3
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Yeah, I have to say I really really don't want that! /o\
Zhu Jiu and Shen Wei both talk to youchu as if they understand them (though that could be rhetorical, and/or the way people IRL talk to animals).
Maybe youchu are like dogs, and can be trained?
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*Yeah, I have to say I really really don't want that! /o\ *
I know, me neither. But it would be a really interesting arc. Maybe if SW had other reason to believe youchu were animalistic...? Or, oh, maybe if youchu were originally animalistic but have recently evolved sentience (super fast evolution aided by dark energy sources/the Hallows)?
Maybe youchu are like dogs, and can be trained?
Maybe! That doesn't quite fit with the way Shen Wei talks to me, imo. If they're just animals, surely the answer is to put them back in their place, not slay them. (If SW's in a hurry, he could freeze or otherwise immobilise them until he has time to deal with them.) But there might be more to it that I'm not seeing.
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This is a super cool idea and entirely possible (evolution on this planet is already freaky as it is :D). Doesn't really help with the general suckiness of youchu having no rights, lol, but a really cool idea in itself!
"If they're just animals, surely the answer is to put them back in their place, not slay them. (If SW's in a hurry, he could freeze or otherwise immobilise them until he has time to deal with them.)"
Yeah, ITA!! But then again, if they're not animals, then the answer is to at least give them a trial for breaking the law? There just isn't any case in which slaying them like this is the right thing to do (other than in self-defense). Which obviously doesn't mean that it shouldn't canonically happen at all, someone else could do it, but Shen Wei just really shouldn't be involved in this imo.
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This is all so bleak, lol damn, grabbing this scene from the novel without recontextualizing it (and therefore involving Shen Wei in something that in the drama he really shouldn't be involved in) just somehow managed to leave no space to make this suck any less. :P
"Hmm. Zhu Jiu and Shen Wei both talk to youchu as if they understand them (though that could be rhetorical, and/or the way people IRL talk to animals). I wonder if youchu have their own language(s), whether they do understand Mandarin/Dixinghua to some degree, and whether they're capable of speaking recognisably human/Dixing languages if people would just stop to listen... (difficult to do, when you're being attacked)."
Oh, these are all really cool questions! I didn't even think of that, but yeah, if they are sentient, there has to be a language barrier of some kind, which is not helping.
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I didn't even think of that, but yeah, if they are sentient, there has to be a language barrier of some kind, which is not helping.
I just saw something yesterday about how orangutans have more complex language than we previously realised. It could be like that -- an opaque-to-us kind of intelligence.
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(Also yay, youchu rights activism is back. :D)
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but it's always nice when actual scientific studies confirm this stuff. :D
Right?
(Also yay, youchu rights activism is back. :D)
Yesss! The next alliance will be Human/Yashou/Dixingren/Youchu, absolutely!! :D
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100%! :D (With even more boring meetings. :D :D)
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Hee! <3 <3 <3
And a Dixingren with a translation power to interpret for the Youchu. :D
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Oh, yes! Excellent plan. :D :D :D