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Cathy ([personal profile] cathyw) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian2024-11-23 09:43 am
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Guardian readalong: chapters 5 and 6

Hello! Welcome back (or just welcome!) to our readalong of Guardian! Whatever translation you're reading, whatever language you're reading it in, please join in our discussion!

Our story so far:
Prologue, chapters 1 and 2
Chapters 3 and 4

... and today we're on to chapters 5 and 6 in the official English translation, or chapters 10-11 in the current JJWXC Chinese text or the most widely-distributed English fan translation.

Chapter 5: Shen Wei has a parting exchange with Zhao Yunlan; Zhao Yunlan sends Guo Changcheng on a mission.
Chapter 6: Guo Changcheng, Da Qing, and Shen Wei visit Li Qian in the student clinic.

Some excerpts:


1) Shen Wei has Zhao Yunlan's number
... Shen Wei couldn't help looking back, even though the person he wanted to see had already disappeared from view. When he looked through his phone's contacts, he found a flirtatious "a-Lan" innocently displayed on the screen. As he silently drank in those two syllables, he felt as though a knife were slipping cleanly through his heart, turning the softest part to a bloody pulp. Finally, his narrow lips locked the words away where no one could hear them.

Shen Wei lifted his fingers and caught the faint scent of Zhao Yunlan's cologne. Closing his eyes, he took a slow, deep breath. He didn't know what cologne it might be, but from the very first whiff, it was as if the scent had been haunting his dreams for years on end.


2) Zhao Yunlan gives a motivational speech
Director Zhao had never had to deal with such a weirdo. There was no way out of this excruciating situation but to push through, no matter how much internal damage he had to suffer in silence. He forced himself into an enigmatic, leaderly stance and said "You did great. That was very detailed. You have potential."

Guo Changcheng's head snapped up. The man before him was gazing down with a pleasant, kind smile wreathing his face. His eyes and brows were more beautiful than Guo Changcheng could express. Those few words flooded him with warmth and strength, and his face went red. His boss was way too good to him - so good that Guo Changcheng suddenly understood the ancient saying, "A man is willing to die for the one who truly understands him." If Director Zhao cherished and valued him like that, even his life wouldn't be too great a sacrifice.

And so, Guo Changcheng voluntarily took on a task even more difficult for him than dying: calling and interacting with strangers.


3) Guo Changcheng is not the best bereavement counselor
Guo Changcheng tugged foolishly at his hair. He'd been able to say so much for once out of sympathy. He was on the verge of admiring himself. "Come on, don't cry. When my grandma first passed away, I thought my world was collapsing too. I remember thinking, now I'll never get the chance to be a filial grandson again, so what's the point of studying and working hard? Back then I would even have traded my life for hers, but..." He sighed. "Anyway, I'm not good with words. I just mean don't be sad. Our relatives who have passed away are still watching over us."

It would have been better if he'd stopped talking while he was ahead. At his last sentences, Li Qian began to shake and sob loudly. It was quickly clear that she was unable to stop, so badly out of it that her hands and feet were twitching unconsciously. Shen Wei hurried to get the doctor. Guo Changcheng, who had never seen someone so utterly devastated, could only stand aside helplessly.


Questions:
Is Zhao Yunlan a good boss? (a good cop? a good Guardian?) Do you find him likeable so far? How about Changcheng? As always, share your favorite bits, comparisons with the drama, comparisons between editions, or whatever other thoughts, feelings, or wordless squeeing you feel moved to.

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trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
(Even the bit about calling strangers, I relate to that a little too much)

A lot of us seem to, hee!

I love how funny priest's writing is. Great comedic talent. :D

When Guo Changcheng talks about his grandma, and how he dreamed of her up until the day he got his university acceptance letter, and then how she said she could leave now that he was grown up — I think she really did do that.

Yes, absolutely, that's how I took it too. Xiao-Guo has no clue now, of course, but now I wonder if there's a point later when he figures it out ...

And I really like what priest does with the parallels between him and Li Qian, yeah!
china_shop: Chu Shuzhi wielding his magic blue strings. (Guardian - CSZ strings)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! (Though lao-Chu is rather less glamorous in the novel, I think.)
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
When Zhao Yunlan asked Guo Changcheng for his thoughts on how Lu Ruomei died and Guo Changcheng's response was "Murdered?" my response to that was a cross between SMH and LOL plus wondering if there's a way to call someone "Captain Obvious" in Chinese.

Hee! *noogies Guo Changcheng forever*
trobadora: (Da Qing - megaphone)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, rot13 is an excellent idea! :D And I thought that ur erzrzorerq Fura Jrv, ohg qvqa'g erpbtavfr uvz, fb ur qvqa'g haqrefgnaq uvf ernpgvba gb guvf fgenatre.
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
Also the description of Zhao Yunlan walking away, "like a peacock with its tail spread," is just. So very Zhao Yunlan

Haha. I feel like novel!ZYL has more swagger than drama!ZYL, though both are super shameless of course. :D

I'm really enjoying priest's humour, too. So many great similes and witticisms -- and they serve the story really well.

Add me to the people who think Guo Changcheng's grandmother did watch over him (awww). :D
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
like they are both attracted to each other but they're on such different wavelengths here...

Two great tastes that taste great together. :DDD

Shen Wei luring Daqing with milk, does this mean he knows Daqing can understand his words? And Daqing/GCC know that he knows this etc? hmmm

Oh, that's an excellent question. I hadn't thought about that -- maybe Shen Wei held up the milk while he was talking (the way people often talk to animals), expecting him to recognise the container?

I love seeing what's caught your interesting and piqued your curiosity. :D
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
Chapter 2 of the official translation says, "Zhao Yunlan had no preference between men or women, and what’s more, he’d been single for a few months." :-)
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
It'll be interesting to see ubj ur ernpgf gb gur Rzvffnel. (V'ir sbetbggra.) :-)
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - four tens)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's one of the bits missing from chapter 4 of the official translation, - we talked about it a bit last post. Here is my comment with the full quotes, but the relevant line is, "Around half a year had passed since the end of his last relationship, and Professor Shen was wholly his cup of tea; it was hard to resist such temptation." (from chapter 7 of the fan translation)
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, I have zero recollection either. Looking forward to finding out!
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - not wrong)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I feel like novel!ZYL has more swagger, but drama!ZYL is more deliberately disreputable. ♥
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Also, novel!ZYL is more arrogant, and drama!ZYL is more of a dork. *g* (I'm thinking specifically of the bit where the SID team are watching the CCTV of the mugging, but I'm sure there are other moments too. And of course, the lollipops. *g*)
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - patience)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
like they are both attracted to each other but they're on such different wavelengths here...

Haha, yeah, seriously!

Shen Wei luring Daqing with milk, does this mean he knows Daqing can understand his words? And Daqing/GCC know that he knows this etc? hmmm

Oh, that's a good question, I hadn't even thought about that! You're totally right, that's something Daqing could potentially pick up on. (Xiao-Guo not so much, I don't think, he's too overwhelmed by everything right now. *g*)

And your perspective on Zhao Yunlan is great, I'm really enjoying reading your thoughts!
trobadora: (Zhao Yunlan - four tens)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, all of this! ♥

(And damn, now I want to rewatch the drama. I need more hours in my days!!!!)

[personal profile] circumference_pie 2024-11-27 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, thank you!

[personal profile] circumference_pie 2024-11-27 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :)
jayfire: (Default)

[personal profile] jayfire 2024-11-27 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Priest loves including a good parallel and I'm happy about that. The parallels always make for such interesting comparisons between different characters, different character relationships, etc. I think for me too, those parallels also help emphasize how important circumstances are to a character's decisions. If Li Qian's family had been more supportive, would she still have made the same choices? If Xiao Guo had been in Li Qian's position, what would he have done? Anyways, parallels! We love them
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)

[personal profile] china_shop 2024-11-27 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yesss! Thirding the love of parallels here! :DDD
trobadora: (Shen Wei & Ye Zun - hands)

[personal profile] trobadora 2024-11-27 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! All of that!

And I love that the drama did so much with all the various character parallels too, it's so satisfying. :D
konshokoentaiko: (Default)

[personal profile] konshokoentaiko 2024-11-29 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
ahh I’ve never seen anything spoiler tagged like this before, I feel like I learned something new xD
konshokoentaiko: (Default)

[personal profile] konshokoentaiko 2024-11-29 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
ooh those ch 4 quotes are interesting and I think answer a lot of my curiosity!
amedia: Young man (Guo Changcheng) looking wide-eyed with the caption VERY BEST CINNAMON ROLL (Guardian: Guo 2)

[personal profile] amedia 2024-12-12 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
"heart as pure as his head is empty."

Eee, I love that!!!

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