GUARDIAN REWATCH – Episode 32

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Beginning of episode: Chu Shuzhi and Zhao Yunlan argue.
Ending of episode: Chu Shuzhi talks with Guo Changcheng.

Important scenes/developments:

• Zhao Yunlan yells at Chu Shuzhi about using his puppet in Zhu Hong’s dream.
• Da Qing runs in as the two argue and the talk shifts to the articles that have been released concerning the SID, and specifically Chu Shuzhi’s past.
• Zhao Yunlan wants to go to Dixing. Chu Shuzhi volunteers.
• It transitions to Ye Zun punishing the Nightmare Master for failing.
• Guo Changcheng has a nightmare that Chu Shuzhi strangles him.
• Zhao Yunlan argues with Minister Gao about the leaked files concerning Chu Shuzhi’s past.
• Zhao Yunlan and Chu Shuzhi argue some more.
• Chu Shuzhi decides to go to Dixing and Guo Changcheng tags along.
• The Regent is still a bad man.
• Chu Shuzhi stomps around angrily because of the Regent and losing the last piece of his brother.
• Chu Shuzhi tries to scare Guo Changcheng away. It doesn’t work.
• Shen Wei is chained to the sky pillar.
• Ye Zun manifests in his shadow form, taunts Chu Shuzhi with his dead brother and then seemingly kills Guo Changcheng.
• Chu Shuzhi wakes up at the SID and tells Zhao Yunlan about Shen Wei.
• Guo Changcheng finds a sleeping Chu Shuzhi and they speak.
• Chu Shuzhi has a nightmare about when he and his brother were kids, and how his brother died.
• Chu Shuzhi tells Guo Changcheng he would like his dreams to be reality.

The Beginning:

• We start the episode off tensely from episode 31, with Zhao Yunlan yelling at Chu Shuzhi about endangering Zhu Hong within the dream. Zhao Yunlan is VERY animated here while in comparison Chu Shuzhi is oddly calm, perhaps because he’s staring at the doll in his hands. The worry for Zhu Hong is definitely felt with Zhao Yunlan saying:
  • ZYL: How could you activate that in a dream? What if Zhu Hong got hurt? What if she couldn’t wake up?
  • After Chu Shuzhi says unlikely Zhao Yunlan proceeds to say: I think you’ve gotten tired of the SID. You’re getting too bold.
  • CSZ: And I think you’ve grown too soft-hearted. Sometimes you need to be ruthless, or you’ll miss the big picture and regret it forever.
  • This scene in particular cements (in my head) how much Zhao Yunlan cares for his whole team. They are his family
  • .I also think this shows Chu Shuzhi trying to protect his family, even if his words are a touch more rough and blunt.

• Da Qing arrives on scene and is very worried for his Cat Family. His appearance does thankfully give both Zhao Yunlan and Chu Shuzhi time to break their staring contest and settle down. Good job, Da Qing!

• Chu Shuzhi offers to go to Dixing and Zhao Yunlan says he needs to think about it. Both Zhao Yunlan and Chu Shuzhi give great jaw clenches in their own way, showing their high emotions. We transition to the Nightmare Master being punished by Ye Zun for failing. Ye Zun says he’s curious about the Nightmare King’s powers and dark energy encircles the Nightmare King’s throat and asks for him to lend his powers to Ye Zun. For a heartbeat Shen Wei wakes up and he looks very exhausted and in pain.
  • I’m still on the fence on what the dark energy was for? Was it to cause pain to punish the Nightmare Master or was it so Ye Zun could steal his powers somewhat?

• We transition back to the SID and Guo Changcheng legit skips into the SID HQ, which is our first clue that things aren’t normal what with the last few episodes being heightened tension and such. He deposits treats on people’s desks and when he turns to Chu-ge’s desk he finds Chu-ge there. Only instead of a typical greeting, Chu Shuzhi grabs Guo Changcheng by the throat. Guo Changcheng wakes with a gasp.
  • I like how when Guo Changcheng wakes up the camera looks at him and then ‘looks’ over at Chu Shuzhi, as if we’re seeing in Guo Changcheng’s POV. On another note, we see Zhu Hong smiling at her desk. I couldn’t quite figure out why she was smiling? I think I may have missed something even with the rewatching!
  • Also, I’m just going to highlight mean dream Chu Shuzhi and then really vaguely evil mean dream Chu Shuzhi with that tiny little smile on the second picture.

• Guo Changcheng goes to Da Qing for reassurances, but in the end the Cat only wants to gossip about what Guo Changcheng saw in Zhu Hong’s dream.
  • This made me laugh because Da Qing is a very nosey cat! LOL. Also, can we talk about how Chu Shuzhi is sitting here? LOLOL.

• We transition to the next morning, and we see the Nightmare Master watching the SID building from across the street. Either way, we find our way back into the bullpen of the SID as Guo Changcheng stumbles upon the article about Chu Shuzhi and his past. It then transitions to Zhao Yunlan defending the team, but specifically Chu Shuzhi, to Minister Gao. Some of my favorite lines in this scene:
  • None of us should become a scapegoat. – Once again, we see Zhao Yunlan defending his family! My heart!
  • Minister Gao: You need to recognize your position! Zhao Yunlan: And you need to recognize that you’re not qualified to sit here and judge us. – SUCH FIERCE Zhao Yunlan. Such fierce!! I love it!
  • He warns Minister Gao to not touch a single person in the SID “including him”. – Such threats! Fiercest of fierce Zhao Yunlan.

• We transition (again) back to the SID HQ and get a nice look at the wall of clocks. The camera shows the team as a whole (minus Zhao Yunlan who isn’t there) and I find it very interesting how the team is seated. Everyone but Chu Shuzhi sits close together whereas Chu Shuzhi stands off to the side. A clear depiction of his ‘outsider’ status.
  • I feel like this is more self-imposed by Chu Shuzhi himself, since the discussion the team is having is about protecting Chu Shuzhi.

• Eventually, Zhao Yunlan enters looking quite spry? Happy? I read some sort of less angry Zhao Yunlan as he arrives back at the SID. Perhaps he’s just happy to be back ‘home’. Zhao Yunlan gives a very Zhao Yunlan pep talk and Chu Shuzhi finally speaks and asks Zhao Yunlan to go to Dixing. He even says please. He’s told no again, because the Haixing Inspectorate is watching him. Chu Shuzhi turns angrily away at the denial. Zhu Hong offers to go but Zhao Yunlan denies her as well, because her self-criticism isn’t big enough. Zhao Yunlan goes to his office and calls Chu Shuzhi to come with him.
  • The look she and Guo Changcheng exchange definitely makes me believe he wrote it for her. LOLOLOL. Which calls back to Shen Wei writing Zhao Yunlan’s (if I’m remembering the episode correctly!).

The Beginning of the Fall:

• Once in Zhao Yunlan’s office we transition to Zhao Yunlan starting to talk and Chu Shuzhi just laughs. I have affectionately titled this particular scene the slow fall of Chu Shuzhi. Though I don’t consider it a true fall, I just mean the journey of emotions Chu Shuzhi goes through in this particular episode. So many Emotions. Once Chu Shuzhi starts to laugh Zhao Yunlan sits down and I think Zhao Yunlan is having similar thoughts XD XD XD Realistically though, I'm sure it's just Zhao Yunlan trying to see how this is all going to play out, because the laughter Chu Shuzhi is doing isn't the good kind.

• Chu Shuzhi proceeds to talk about his crimes in a very cavalier manner, saying the punishment was just and fair, and he paid his due for his crimes. He ends with: How dare they insult my family? It’s with that line that Chu Shuzhi shows anger again. Zhao Yunlan tries to appease Chu Shuzhi, saying: It’s a very sensitive point for you. But what do you want to do now? They made comments, are you going to kill them? And Chu Shuzhi is all: They shouldn’t force me to. My absolute favorite line is Zhao Yunlan saying: It’s been a hundred years and you’re still so merciless. And also: You still only know violence when you’re worried.
  • For his statement about family is he saying for his actual family line, or his SID family? My heart says SID family XD Or both honestly, but right this moment, I think more SID.
  • Zhao Yunlan’s line about only knowing violence because Chu Shuzhi is worried is such: AIEE my heart. Chu Shuzhi is seen XD XD XD

• Zhao Yunlan then basically tells Chu Shuzhi to be patient and Chu Shuzhi states he knows. Which then prompts Zhao Yunlan to ask him why he’s still giving him grief when he knows! I love that byplay between the two, but also the next part is my fave too :D Chu Shuzhi leans over Zhao Yunlan’s desk and offers to bring Professor Shen ‘back to you’. BACK TO YOU. Ahhhhh!! I really enjoyed how the camera focused on Zhao Yunlan’s face, then Chu Shuzhi’s and then Zhao Yunlan’s again. You can absolutely see Zhao Yunlan almost going for it up until his common sense kicks in. Zhao Yunlan says no, and Chu Shuzhi tries to speak again but Zhao Yunlan stands which I think surprised Chu Shuzhi with how his words stop. Zhao Yunlan says no again, which causes Chu Shuzhi to look disgruntled before he walks out.
  • I really liked this scene where we see Chu Shuzhi more open in some ways, than just anger and grumpy goth, but we also see Zhao Yunlan really step forward as a leader and put everything before his own wants and desires. Because he sure does want to save Shen Wei.

Homeward Bound:

• Both men angry walk through the SID bullpen and Zhao Yunlan tells Guo Changcheng to follow Chu Shuzhi. We find Chu Shuzhi and Guo Changcheng standing outside the portal to Dixing. Chu Shuzhi talks about having not been back in awhile. An obvious heavy subject for him, but it’s lightened somewhat with Guo Changcheng’s questioning of what Chu Shuzhi is talking about for the portal. Eventually Guo Changcheng is booted into the portal by Chu Shuzhi.

• We have a lovely transition where we see Dixing and the palace and the lava fields. Guo Changcheng and Chu Shuzhi walk down the steps, with Guo Changcheng looking very awed and Chu Shuzhi looking stern. Only once the two are at the bottom of the steps does Chu Shuzhi inhale sharply. Guo Changcheng starts to stutter ask a question, but Chu Shuzhi cuts him off, saying: For starters, follow behind me and don’t say a word.
  • Is the inhale because Dixing smells like ‘home’ to him, or because he’s mentally preparing for whatever may happen.
  • Chu Shuzhi’s order to follow behind him makes me think he’s acting as shield for Guo Changcheng. If shit is going to proverbially hit the fan, he’ll take the strikes.

• Chu Shuzhi powerwalks right up to the smarmy Regent who asks why he’s here, saying he’s a few days early for his ‘release’. ‘Be patient’. Chu Shuzhi tells the Regent he’s here on behalf of the SID. The Regent gives some background on how Hei Pao Shi transferred Chu Shuzhi to the SID three years ago, and we briefly see a glimpse of Guo Changcheng nervously shifting on his feet. The Regent continues to speak saying how Chu Shuzhi seemed to have adapted well to his job in Dragon City. Chu Shuzhi ignores the Regent and asks where Hei Pao Shi is. The Regent proceeds to deflect, up until he tells the Regent to summon Hei Pao Shi. While the Regent goes to ‘summon’ Hei Pao Shi, Chu Shuzhi deploys a string and steals the incense cone.
  • You can just feel the ‘I’m absolutely done’ energy from Chu Shuzhi in this whole whole whole scene. I love it!

• When the Regent returns, he tries to lie by saying Hei Pao Shi is on the surface. Chu Shuzhi laughs. Chu Shuzhi gets right into the Regent’s personal space (you go Chu Shuzhi) and accuses of him of kneeling to Ye Zun. Once more the Regent tries to deflect, by saying Chu Shuzhi’s punishment is almost complete and does he want to mess it up. More laughter from Chu Shuzhi. Chu Shuzhi says he wears the spring and autumn (I believe is what I’ve seen others refer to them as, please correct me if I’m wrong 😊) shackles voluntarily, and how does that give the Regent a hold over him. The Regent once again advises Chu Shuzhi to remain calm which causes Chu Shuzhi to ask once again if Hei Pao Shi is in Dixing, which the Regent replies: he should be. He just has no idea where Hei Pao Shi could be (liar liar liar) XD. Cue the angry walking once again!
  • Honestly this is the most laughter I think we’ve ever seen from Chu Shuzhi XD Not that it’s GOOD laughter, but so much laughter.

• Before Chu Shuzhi can angry walk (he sure is getting his steps in) too far, Guo Changcheng touches his arm to ask what they should do now. ‘Are we still looking for Professor Shen?’. Chu Shuzhi does the smart thing and tells Guo Changcheng they need to go back to the SID first to tell Zhao Yunlan what’s going on. Guo Changcheng agrees and starts walking away, but Chu Shuzhi isn’t following. Guo Changcheng stops and asks You’re not coming? And Chu Shuzhi reveals he needs to get something first. They’re digging in the ground and it reveals a small wooden box. When he opens it Chu Shuzhi finds it empty. Chu Shuzhi looks visibly upset and runs off, Guo Changcheng chases after him.
  • I really have to say the expressions on both their faces is such a journey! So many feels so many feels.

• It’s back to the palace and when Chu Shuzhi (with Guo Changcheng behind him) arrives, Chu Shuzhi yells out his brother’s name and asks where is he? Chu Shuzhi and Guo Changcheng both look upset, though Guo Changcheng is also confused when he asks Chu-ge, what are you looking for? Chu Shuzhi demands his things back and the Regent, who’s hiding off to the side asks: Chu Shuzhi, you were jailed for manslaughter. Now, do you want to repeat what happened? Chu Shuzhi denies he does, that they’re compelling him. The Regent then proceeds to pass a message from Ye Zun to Chu Shuzhi: He will take good care of your brother, and Chu Shuzhi’s face is just heartbreaking as he asks ‘what?’, but ultimately understands what’s going on. The Regent wouldn’t let him take the last thing his brother was alive in so he could hold it over Chu Shuzhi. Chu Shuzhi says the Regent has no right to judge him and we see the Regent laughing off to the side. Once more we are angry walking away.
  • I absolutely love how Chu Shuzhi connects all the dots. Can see the lies and the politics in play here and all the opportunities that the Regent has done to make sure the Regent has the upper hand when dealing with Chu Shuzhi.

The Fall:

• Chu Shuzhi angry angry angry walks down the steps into the main square (I think?) of Dixing and Guo Changcheng (bravely) calls his name.
  • Chu Shuzhi’s face goes on a journey of emotions. A JOURNEY.
  • In all honesty it reminds me of how Chu Shuzhi used to be in the very beginning episodes with Guo Changcheng. When he was trying to scare the newbie away.

• You can tell Guo Changcheng is trying to be very brave here. His expression just reads very brave but also scared. I also love how the camera does a whole circle around them going from looking straight at Chu Shuzhi to looking somewhat over Guo Changcheng’s shoulder when Chu Shuzhi starts to talk, before it continues to circle around so both are seen. Chu Shuzhi immediately starts in with the scare tactics:
  • CSZ: Little boy, don’t you know who I am?
  • GCC: I know. No, no … I don’t know. No, I mean …
  • CSZ: Didn’t you hear me? I’m a murderer.

• Chu Shuzhi’s voice is very tight, aggressive, and when he says I don’t just kill people, he begins to stalk over to Guo Changcheng. He grabs Guo Changcheng and pulls him real close. We can see Chu Shuzhi is completely in Guo Changcheng’s personal space and Guo Changcheng is actively trying to put distance between them, with his face turned away, though he watches Chu Shuzhi from the corner of his eye. The camera pans around the two again, which I think heightens the tension of the whole scene, until we can see Chu Shuzhi has pulled Guo Changcheng closer so that Guo Changcheng is looking at him more straight on. We go from little boy to Chu Shuzhi now calling Guo Changcheng little child, as Chu Shuzhi tries to scare Changcheng further with more cannibal 101.

• At this point Chu Shuzhi let’s Guo Changcheng go and proceeds to walk behind him before he grabs his shoulder and leans over Guo Changcheng’s shoulder to continue his lecture about chewy cartilage to try and push it home how he's an evil evil man. (Also, I have to say kudos to the camera person, because they were walking backwards to get these shots and angles of the two!!) Once again, Chu Shuzhi calls him little boy, and tells Changcheng he’s a man-eating demon and proceeds to pat the back of Changcheng’s head as he laughs. Chu Shuzhi, thinking his job is done starts to walk away, but Guo Changcheng follows. Chu Shuzhi asks if he really wants him to eat Guo Changcheng, and Changcheng doesn’t answer, only continues to follow Chu Shuzhi. Chu Shuzhi yells for him to run away before he gets mad, but Guo Changcheng says no, citing Zhao Yunlan ordered him to stay with Chu Shuzhi. Such brave Changcheng.

• Now Changcheng’s dream seems to come true, as Chu Shuzhi grabs him by the throat and pushes him backwards before he lifts Guo Changcheng up off the ground. Chu Shuzhi proceeds to talk about his penalty, and how he’s paid his dues, and how it isn’t right what the Regent (and Ye Zun?) are doing to him and how dare they disturb him (his brother). I think this is interesting because he’s no longer trying to scare Guo Changcheng away, but instead talking about what’s really upsetting him. He screams his brother is already dead and throws Guo Changcheng to the ground, who gasps in great breaths of air. Chu Shuzhi, calmer now, says there’s only so much he can do for him. He crouches down then and tells Guo Changcheng to go back. Chu Shuzhi says: Tell Zhao Yunlan, I am nobody. No courage, no ability. I’m a nobody anyone can trample on. But now, I am going to get back what’s mine. When everything is over I’ll go back and apologize.
  • I love how when Chu Shuzhi rises it goes into a slow-motion style and you can see the tear track down his face, but also his resolve.
  • I find this scene particularly emotional to my brain, because after he tries so hard to scare Guo Changcheng away, and Guo Changcheng isn’t scared away, he finally breaks and admits his real emotions and you can see when he processes through them at the end, when he talks much more softly to Guo Changcheng about going back. When we see Chu Shuzhi reveal how he really sees himself, but also that he’s going to take back what’s his. I have many many feels about this and the music behind the scene is especially good too.

• I am going to speed run through the Ye Zun, Shen Wei, Chu Shuzhi, Guo Changcheng scene, because I feel like this write-up is so so long and there is one other scene I want to throw words around about. XD We transition to Shen Wei chained to the sky pillar! Chu Shuzhi yells for Ye Zun, but before Ye Zun appears Chu Shuzhi spies Shen Wei. You can just see the anger drain from Chu Shuzhi’s face at seeing Hei Pao Shi chained! He moves in to ‘save’ Shen Wei, but Ye Zun finally speaks. The conversation between Ye Zun and Chu Shuzhi is layered, I think. With Ye Zun talking about saving ‘him’, which could at first be construed to saving Hei Pao Shi, but in the end, he means (I think!!) Chu Nianzhi. Ye Zun does the dirty and illusions a Chu Nianzhi which just puts Chu Shuzhi’s heart through the wringer. Guo Changcheng eventually arrives on the scene and finds himself wrapped in dark energy bindings. Poor Chu Shuzhi’s face goes through so many journeys with this, until finally we get to the point where Ye Zun pulls the final straw to try and break Chu Shuzhi. He pretends to kill Guo Changcheng. Chu Shuzhi shouts and cries whereas Ye Zun laughs. I thought that was a nice juxtaposition. Briefly, we see a memory after Chu Shuzhi collapses of the Chu twins as young man where it’s revealed Chu Shuzhi received a letter of admission. It transitions to the Regent reading the same letter/scroll of admission. Before the memory can continue Zhao Yunlan’s voice breaks through with Lao Chu and Chu Shuzhi wakes with a start.

The Dream:

• Chu Shuzhi startles awake and looks visibly confused. Zhao Yunlan tries to confirm with Chu Shuzhi that Shen Wei was chained to the sky pillar. Chu Shuzhi hesitantly agrees and says Shen Wei was unconscious and then he says the most telling line (IMO!!) of: I don’t really know what’s going on. He says Shen Wei didn’t seem in danger but he couldn’t break the chains. He says Ye Zun wouldn’t let him die so easily. Then he says Changcheng was tired, so I sent him back. Chu Shuzhi, still acting confused, says he has to leave now too, but Zhao Yunlan convinces him to go rest in the library, but don’t fall asleep.
  • It’s interesting that when Zhao Yunlan convinces him to stay that when Chu Shuzhi turns back around, he actually stumbles a little bit.

• The next sets of scenes are some of my favorite for Chu Shuzhi for this episode. 😊 Let’s dive in! We see Chu Shuzhi sitting on the couch staring at the little doll in his hands, sans coat and scarves. The music while he looks at the doll is very delicate and soft. It eventually transitions to Chu Shuzhi being asleep (danger danger!!) holding the doll. A hand taps on Chu Shuzhi’s shoulder and suddenly, we hear Guo Changcheng’s voice. Chu Shuzhi wakes up and when he looks over we see a hail and healthy Guo Changcheng. Chu Shuzhi sits up and asks: You’re fine? And Guo Changcheng assures him he’s fine and adds: I was slightly injured but Deputy Chief gave me medicine. Pretty good now. Chu Shuzhi is in disbelief! Disbelief! He asks after Guo Changcheng collapsing back at the sky pillar and Guo Changcheng says he was only playing dead to fool Ye Zun.

• Chu Shuzhi pushes back again saying it’s impossible and Guo Changcheng says: Chu-ge. Aren’t you happy I’m fine? (Nightmare Master is such a manipulator!!!) Chu Shuzhi blinks rapidly but still looks concerned. Guo Changcheng proceeds to say: Do you think it’s a dream? (Sly Nightmare Master, so sly!) and raises his hand and says: I can slap you. You don’t feel pain in a dream. Chu Shuzhi looks at that hand before looking back to Guo Changcheng’s face. Guo Changcheng eventually lowers his hand sheepishly. How could I bear to hit you, Guo Changcheng says. As Guo Changcheng speaks we see Chu Shuzhi furtively pinch his thigh and when he feels the pain he smiles, because it means it’s not a dream (BUT IT IS CHU SHUZHI IT IS). Guo Changcheng possibly takes Chu Shuzhi’s silence as disbelief still and says: Chu-ge, are you afraid I’ll tell everyone what happened in Dixing? So you don’t want me to exist? (again that manipulation! Bad Nightmare Master bad!). Chu Shuzhi is quick to deny and starts to say: I’m just afraid … but before he can finish that thought Guo Changcheng reaches over and takes a hold of his hand. Guo Changcheng reassures Chu-ge with: I don’t blame you. I know what that thing means to you and it’s not like you tried to kill me. I ran there by myself. And I even fooled Ye zun. I was finally clever for once. Chu Shuzhi smiles and laughs a little, and then quietly thanks Guo Changcheng. Guo Changcheng playfully slaps Chu Shuzhi’s hand, and says ‘let’s have some food’. As Guo Changcheng is unpackaging the food you can see Chu Shuzhi start to say something, pause, then whisper: Sorry. Guo Changcheng brushes aside Chu Shuzhi’s apology and urges Chu Shuzhi to eat to eat, but Chu Shuzhi whispers: I’m not hungry. We end with Nightmare Master, I mean Guo Changcheng, tucking Chu Shuzhi back down on the couch to sleep and Chu Shuzhi holding onto Changcheng’s hand and looking him in the face.
  • I must now scream all my thoughts about this particular set of scenes :D
  • First, when Chu Shuzhi was talking to Zhao Yunlan he said he sent Guo Changcheng back, but when they see each other it’s clear Chu Shuzhi knows what happened. Is this because Nightmare Master had made Chu Shuzhi say those words to Zhao Yunlan? A subliminal message/hypnosis as it were? I think so?
  • Second, Chu Shuzhi speaking in such tentative soft tones/whispers, ahhh my heart. My heartttt. MY HEART.
  • Third, how dare Nightmare Master hold Chu Shuzhi’s hand. HOW DARE. And how dare he impersonate Changcheng, HOW DARE.
  • Fourth, do you think the Nightmare Master’s powers give a sense of how a person acts/thinks? That he can fool people so well, or is he just a great manipulator.
  • Fifth, when Chu Shuzhi is looking up at Guo Changcheng at the end there it’s makes my brain read it as: I’m afraid you’re going to disappear and that this IS a dream.

• We return to the dreams where we get a little more back story about Chu Shuzhi and Chu Nianzhi. We find Chu Nianzhi serving punishment for some infraction. Chu Shuzhi brings him bread to eat and takes a turn at holding the pitcher on his head so his brother can eat. They discuss if Chu Shuzhi is really going to go to the palace to work, and Chu Shuzhi says yes, he wants to live a peaceful life. Chu Nianzhi says he wants to be like the great hero Hei Pao Shi and then we switch over to flashes of other memories, the bar scene, the two of them trying to take the blame, and the Regent punishing them both. Hsst at the Regent hsst. (This is also where I feel most confused about the twins story) We transition back to current day to see Chu Shuzhi flinching in his sleep and Guo Changcheng sitting in his chair, eyes closed, hands folded. Chu Shuzhi awakens with a start and Guo Changcheng is there, concerned: Chu-ge, you’re awake. But is Chu Shuzhi? He says: Changcheng. And Guo Changcheng asks what’s wrong. Chu Shuzhi says with alarm: Fire. Fire everywhere. They’re burning me. Guo Changcheng quickly assures Chu Shuzhi that there’s nothing there. That it was a dream. (red alert!) Chu Shuzhi asks: Dream? Guo Changcheng asks if the dream was scary (SHAME ON YOU NIGHTMARE MASTER) and Chu Shuzhi realizes he dropped the doll and reaches down to pick it up. Softly, he says: He’s dead. He died nonetheless. Slowly Chu Shuzhi brings the doll up and presses it against his head.
  • I have a lot of feelings about this scene too.
  • First, when we see Guo Changcheng sitting so calm and composed in the chair is it because he’s using his powers (Nightmare Master that is? My brain says yes!)
  • Second, concerned Changcheng is a lie! *shakes fist at Nightmare Master*
  • I find the whole scene with the doll and the music and where Chu Shuzhi presses it against his head to be very heart-breaking. Like yes, he knows his brother is dead, but it’s like it’s a fresh wound again.

• Finally, our final act has the two walking outside in Haixing, and Chu Shuzhi wishes his dreams were reality and it ends there. I like how there’s a call-back to earlier in the episode when Guo Changcheng was following after Chu Shuzhi in Dixing, but here, instead of anger, there’s just exhaustion from Chu Shuzhi.

Discussion Points:

• What was your favorite part of this particular episode as we continue into the dream arc of the show? Was it Zhao Yunlan and Chu Shuzhi arguing several times? Was it the cannibal scene? I’m eager to hear!
• When do you think the dream actually started? Was it when we see Guo Changcheng wake from his nightmare? Or was it after Guo Changcheng was ‘killed’ by Ye Zun? Or is Guo Chancheng really Guo Changcheng in this whole episode? I’m sure you can see my opinion in my write-up of what I think LOL XD
• How do you think Chu Shuzhi got back to the SID after being defeated by Ye Zun? Was it the Nightmare Master’s doing? Do you think Zhao Yunlan had an inkling that something was wrong?
• Also, do you think with how confused Chu Shuzhi was acting that the Nightmare Master used his powers on him to remember things differently, which is why he acted so confused/stumbled and stuttered?
• Do you think when the Nightmare Master impersonates someone he can actually get a sense of the person with his powers? Or is he just real good at reading people and manipulation?
• When the Regent was pretending not to know where Shen Wei was, what do you think that look at the very end was? I felt like it was significant in some ways, but I’m not sure what to read of it.
• I know I sped ran through the Ye Zun part, but I have to say Zhu Yilong’s portal of Ye Zun versus Shen Wei is really awesome. He definitely can play maniacal evil very well. Does everyone have a favorite Ye Zun scene? If so, what it is? :D
• I still feel vaguely confused on the Chu twins background. Can someone confirm that I am not reading things incorrectly and that there are at least two (maybe three) versions of the Chu twins background between 32 and 33? Because I had to run on over to 33 to try and figure out if I was just remembering everything wrong LOL and honestly, I still feel vaguely confused?!

Let’s talk about episode 32!

Come and talk about this episode – anything from favourite scenes or lines of dialogue to notes/questions about continuity or translation, most gorgeous (or angsty) smile, or anything else that strikes your fancy! And share links to your own and/or others’ episode-related meta, picspams, and fanworks, new or old!

PS: Also, a shout out to everyone who has written up/commented/and just squee’d over these rewatches! This community is truly awesome :D Kudos to everyone! And also, please forgive any run on sentences or repeating of myself (I'm pretty sure I repeated some thoughts several times) I fueled myself with a lot of caffeine when writing this :) THANK YOU!

Comments

[trobadora]

This post is so good! ♥

The way Chu Shuzhi talks about the puppet (holding the smaller form in his hand): "He only takes action when there's danger ..." as if he were a separate person - foreshadowing the thing with Nianzhi's puppet? But I have to admit that bit isn't quite clear to me. The two puppets we see in Haixing seem to be treated as one, at least - it was the larger one we saw in Zhu Hong's dream. I hope it'll all become clearer to me on this rewatch!

Zhao Yunlan is VERY animated here while in comparison Chu Shuzhi is oddly calm, perhaps because he's staring at the doll in his hands.

Yeah, Chu Shuzhi only starts shouting back after Zhao Yunlan accuses him of getting too bold for the SID. I think that's because all Chu Shuzhi has been doing has been trying to deal with the current SID crisis as best he could - he even says here, "I just wanted to solve the problem", and then Zhao Yunlan threatens to fire him in return. They're both so angry!

(And I love that part of this is because they're both on edge because they're worrying about what's happening with Shen Wei in Dixing, and neither of them deals well with problems they can't do anything about!)

Zhao Yunlan cares so much for his people - and here he's almost firing Chu Shuzhi out of protectiveness. Meanwhile Chu Shuzhi is also being protective, even if it manifests differently! Pretty sure they're both glad Da Qing interrupted them before things escalated even more.

(The subtitles have Chu Shuzhi saying Zhu Hong "deserves what she gets" - pretty harsh! As far as I can tell, the Chinese says something more like "she brought it on herself", which isn't quite the same thing IMO. Still, can't blame Zhao Yunlan for being angry about that!)

I also think this shows Chu Shuzhi trying to protect his family, even if his words are a touch more rough and blunt.

100% agreed!

Da Qing arrives on scene and is very worried for his Cat Family. His appearance does thankfully give both Zhao Yunlan and Chu Shuzhi time to break their staring contest and settle down. Good job, Da Qing!

Yes! Everyone is so worried!

And Zhao Yunlan decides to go to Dixing after all, only for Da Qing to be the voice of reason and stop him because it's too dangerous.

Zhao Yunlan: "So we just stay here and wait to die?" - but when Chu Shuzhi offers to go in his stead, Zhao Yunlan's reason kicks in despite his anger and frustration, and he says he needs to think about it. Because it's different when the danger is to someone else! *g*

Ye Zun says he's curious about the Nightmare King's powers and dark energy encircles the Nightmare King's throat and asks for him to lend his powers to Ye Zun. [...] I'm still on the fence on what the dark energy was for? Was it to cause pain to punish the Nightmare Master or was it so Ye Zun could steal his powers somewhat?

Very good question! I didn't think Ye Zun could take others' powers without eating them (though he can presumably spit them out again?), and this looks nothing like that power. I feel like it may be a threat, that he's just torturing him and threatening he'll "borrow" his powers (i.e. eat him) if he doesn't measure up?

Subtitles: When Ye Zun says, 杀人诛心, Solo's subs just render it as "destroy"; the original subs have it as "It's better to conquer one's mind than destroy his body.", and the Viki subs have it as "Kill someone by killing the people's trust in them." I would really like an explanation of the original phrase, because this is way beyond my rudimentary Chinese, LOL.

Guo Changcheng legit skips into the SID HQ, which is our first clue that things aren't normal what with the last few episodes being heightened tension and such.

Yes, excellent point! It's so surreal and out of touch with where the story is at the moment.

On another note, we see Zhu Hong smiling at her desk. I couldn't quite figure out why she was smiling? I think I may have missed something even with the rewatching!

*double-checks* Oh, good catch! I'm not sure what that is about either. Maybe just that she's feeling better about everything now that her issues with Zhao Yunlan have been resolved?

Guo Changcheng goes to Da Qing for reassurances, but in the end the Cat only wants to gossip about what Guo Changcheng saw in Zhu Hong's dream.

Cats aren't impressed by high tensions, apparently! Da Qing just wants to go back to normal things like gossip and fish snacks. *g*

But he does tell Xiao-Guo to hold out rather than sleeping. At this point, everyone's trying not to sleep, I gather, which obviously isn't sustainable in the long run. Even the cat isn't letting himself nap!

And when Da Qing reminds him dreams aren't real (and therefore safe to gossip about, LOL) Xiao-Guo looks at Chu Shuzhi, because he's worried about his dream becoming real. Which is fascinating, because at this point the viewer is primed to think that LOL nope, of course Lao-Chu wouldn't strangle him - but then later in this episode, he does! Which just adds to the weirdness of this entire arc, where dream and reality are easily confused for each other and it's hard to tell (especially on first viewing) what's real and what isn't. But what Da Qing says here is right: "Anything could happen here."

Zhao Yunlan defending the team, but specifically Chu Shuzhi, to Minister Gao

Yes! No matter how angry he was or how he threatened to fire Chu Shuzhi, he's not going to let anyone else target him!

Also, interestingly, what he's telling Minister Gao to do about the current crisis is block comments (there's the censorship again) and otherwise pretend nothing happened. But Minister Gao isn't good at doing nothing - like Zhao Yunlan, like Chu Shuzhi, except in his case it manifests in trying to further undermine the people most qualified to actually deal with the actual threat.

Also, Zhao Yunlan is so stiff in this scene, so physically constrained in a way he very rarely is. Despite the angry speech, he's still holding on so very tightly to his self-control! So different to how animated his anger is in the scene with Chu Shuzhi. (It's different with family!)

Minister Gao: You need to recognize your position! Zhao Yunlan: And you need to recognize that you're not qualified to sit here and judge us.

Zhao Yunlan is so completely out of line speaking to his superior! He has zero chill left, and zero interest in making nice with the bureaucrats. I think the attempt to shut down the SID (which appears to have been rescinded for the time being) was the last straw for him and now he's no longer considering the Ministry in his decisions at all. He even dares the Minister to go after Chu Shuzhi, making it blatantly clear the SID isn't under the Ministry's control any more.

(Speaking of the attempt to shut down the SID, which had progressed to the point of the Ministry sending men to the SID - I mean, not shutting it down after all is the better choice, obviously, but it just goes to show that Minister Gao is really not acting on any kind of reasoned decision-making process. He's trying to do something, anything, and he throws things at the wall hoping something will stick and make things miraculously better. And when it doesn't go like he hopes, he just pretends it didn't happen. But he won't do that to begin with, in response to the leaks and rumours, where it might actually be helpful!)

(Also, when Zhao Yunlan returns to the SID, Da Qing is still worried about the SID being shut down, but Zhao Yunlan just says "If they do, we reopen." We're definitely in full-on vigilante mode from hereon.)

I find it very interesting how the team is seated. Everyone but Chu Shuzhi sits close together whereas Chu Shuzhi stands off to the side. A clear depiction of his 'outsider' status.
I feel like this is more self-imposed by Chu Shuzhi himself, since the discussion the team is having is about protecting Chu Shuzhi.

Ooh, excellent observation!

And it's not entirely clear to me what everyone else knows about Chu Shuzhi's background. Zhao Yunlan obviously knows; Da Qing knows (because he's about to tell Xiao-Guo in episode 15, but Lao-Chu glares him into shutting up), but does Zhu Hong? She seems so indignant on his behalf.

Eventually, Zhao Yunlan enters looking quite spry? Happy? I read some sort of less angry Zhao Yunlan as he arrives back at the SID. Perhaps he's just happy to be back 'home'.

I think it's because he feels he's staved off the problems with the Ministry for now - a small but significant win, when Minister Gao could easily have doubled down and tried to forcibly shut down the SID. Which wouldn't have stopped the team from doing what needed doing, but definitely would have made things much harder for them! (It'll happen eventually, but not just yet. I didn't remember just how long this threat is hanging over them before it actually comes to fruition!)

Chu Shuzhi finally speaks and asks Zhao Yunlan to go to Dixing. He even says please. He's told no again, because the Haixing Inspectorate is watching him. Chu Shuzhi turns angrily away at the denial.

He knows Zhao Yunlan wants to go to Dixing but has been talking himself out of it, and earlier Zhao Yunlan said he'd think about it, so he has reason to think it'll work! And Zhao Yunlan's reasoning could easily be turned the other way round - everyone's attention is on Chu Shuzhi, so getting him out of sight for a while doing something useful elsewhere wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Also, it's fascinating to me that Zhu Hong, who's never been to Dixing before, offers to go instead!

The look she and Guo Changcheng exchange definitely makes me believe he wrote it for her. LOLOLOL. Which calls back to Shen Wei writing Zhao Yunlan's

Ha! You're right! Excellent catch, I love these parallels. :D

Once in Zhao Yunlan's office we transition to Zhao Yunlan starting to talk and Chu Shuzhi just laughs.

He's losing control! I love that it starts like this, and then slides into the full deranged laughter act later in Dixing, tying it all together smoothly because it's not coming out of nowhere.

My absolute favorite line is Zhao Yunlan saying: It's been a hundred years and you're still so merciless. And also: You still only know violence when you're worried.

These are great lines!

For his statement about family is he saying for his actual family line, or his SID family? My heart says SID family XD Or both honestly, but right this moment, I think more SID.

Ooh, good question! It sounds to me like it's more about how his backstory is presented/twisted in what's gone public, because that's what he's talking about here - what happened 100 years ago?

the next part is my fave too :D Chu Shuzhi leans over Zhao Yunlan's desk and offers to bring Professor Shen 'back to you'. BACK TO YOU. Ahhhhh!!

RIGHT??? Now Chu Shuzhi is resorting to serious temptation, trying to make Zhao Yunlan let him do what he feels he needs to - he's leveraging Zhao Yunlan's feelings for Shen Wei against him. Which, so much love!

You can absolutely see Zhao Yunlan almost going for it up until his common sense kicks in.

YES!!!!!

we also see Zhao Yunlan really step forward as a leader and put everything before his own wants and desires. Because he sure does want to save Shen Wei.

Yes, exactly! Though I wonder - what does Zhao Yunlan expect, telling Xiao-Guo to follow Chu Shuzhi? He clearly doesn't expect Chu Shuzhi to obey him - does he think Xiao-Guo's presence will stop Chu Shuzhi from going to Dixing? In which case he's spectacularly wrong, given how Chu Shuzhi even kicks Guo Changcheng into the passage! Not even ditching him but taking him along - Chu Shuzhi isn't evaluating the risk correctly there at all ... (I wonder whether if he knew how cautious Shen Wei was about taking Zhao Yunlan to Dixing at all, much less under such circumstances, he'd have evaluated things differently? Or maybe he's too worked up right now, I'm not sure.)

Also, it's fascinating to me that Xiao-Guo apparently has no idea about the passage to Dixing and where it opens. No chance at stopping Chu Shuzhi or talking sense into him because he's not realising what's going on until he's already there!

Is the inhale because Dixing smells like 'home' to him, or because he's mentally preparing for whatever may happen.

Maybe a little bit of both? I love the idea that Dixing's atmosphere/smell is having a visceral effect on him. ♥

The Regent proceeds to deflect, up until he tells the Regent to summon Hei Pao Shi. While the Regent goes to 'summon' Hei Pao Shi, Chu Shuzhi deploys a string and steals the incense cone.
You can just feel the 'I'm absolutely done' energy from Chu Shuzhi in this whole whole whole scene. I love it!

Ha, yes! I love that!

I wonder what's going on in the Palace. When Shen Wei turned up, he was attacked; Chu Shuzhi and Guo Changcheng can just walk around and go up against the Regent without even being harassed, even if they do get targeted afterwards. (Goes to show Ye Zun's priorities, I guess!) I also wonder what the Regent's agenda is during all of this.

Also, now we discover why Ye Zun's flunkies thought stepping on the incense was enough to stop the Regent from summoning the Envoy, in the flashback in episode 30 - it apparently really doesn't work if broken! So fascinating!

Chu Shuzhi says he wears the spring and autumn (I believe is what I've seen others refer to them as, please correct me if I'm wrong 😊) shackles voluntarily, and how does that give the Regent a hold over him.

I'm fascinated with everything this scene implies about Chu Shuzhi's punishment. When he first arrives, the Regent tells him to be patient since it's still a few days until his release, implying there's something to release him from that would need the Regent's action, and when they're talking about the Spring and Autumn shackles it sounds as if he's still wearing them in some form, which makes me wonder in what ways he's still being restrained, and what he might be capable of without that ...

We see some kind of grass when Chu Shuzhi digs out the box, and also in the background when the two of them come out of the palace! So some kind of greenery does grow in Dixing, which is fascinating because it's still green despite the lack of light ...

Nianzhi's puppet being missing seems to be Ye Zun's doing, since the Regent is passing on a message from Ye Zun about "taking care of his brother". I wonder how he got that idea, and how he knew where to find the puppet, since he presumably hasn't had the opportunity to personally get his hooks into Chu Shuzhi yet. From the Nightmare Master, who's been scoping out all their vulnerabilities? Or from the Regent?

Chu Shuzhi says the Regent has no right to judge him and we see the Regent laughing off to the side.

Excellent parallel to what Zhao Yunlan said to Minister Gao, like amedia pointed out above! :D

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In all honesty it reminds me of how Chu Shuzhi used to be in the very beginning episodes with Guo Changcheng. When he was trying to scare the newbie away.

Yes! And Xiao-Guo's overt fear is also very reminiscent of those early episodes. He hasn't been afraid of Lao-Chu in forever! But now Chu Shuzhi is actively trying to scare him off. And there are all kinds of reasons for that - he's lashing out projecting violence and madness because that's what he does when he feels vulnerable, and he doesn't feel like he deserves to hold on to Xiao-Guo, and so on - but I don't think I quite realised before that of course a big part of it all is that after the bait the Regent dangled in front of him in Ye Zun's name, he's planning to go straight after Ye Zun, so of course he's trying to stop Xiao-Guo from following him there! He's all out of common sense in a lot of respects right now, but not so much that he'd voluntarily drag Xiao-Guo into that.

(Also, it just struck me that after Zhao Yunlan last episode trying to push Zhu Hong away, here we have Chu Shuzhi trying to push Guo Changcheng away. And despite both relationships being nothing like each other, neither attempt works. And Chu Shuzhi and Zhao Yunlan have a massive clash, but Zhao Yunlan still defends him to the Minister. All their connections are being tested, and only come out stronger. ♥)

Now Changcheng's dream seems to come true, as Chu Shuzhi grabs him by the throat and pushes him backwards before he lifts Guo Changcheng up off the ground.

Yes! I love how it all ties together! :D

With Ye Zun talking about saving 'him', which could at first be construed to saving Hei Pao Shi, but in the end, he means (I think!!) Chu Nianzhi. Ye Zun does the dirty and illusions a Chu Nianzhi which just puts Chu Shuzhi's heart through the wringer.

I think he does mean Shen Wei first, because that's the immediate situation where he says it - Chu Shuzhi rushing towards the Envoy. But there are layers to it, yeah - and in the end, Chu Shuzhi can't save anyone.

And he lets himself fall for the fake Nianzhi, which just shows how out of it he is. (Very convenient that Shen Wei is unconscious through all of this, because if he weren't, I figure a single word from him would help Chu Shuzhi pull himself together and deal much better with all of this.)

And the whole "kill Guo Changcheng and I'll give Nianzhi back to you" is so evil! But Chu Shuzhi won't take that deal, no matter how out of his mind he is, so Ye Zun has to (fake-)kill him himself.

(Also, OMG, Ye Zun must have so many feelings pretending to be someone else's twin didi! Torturing Chu Shuzhi in his own gege's place! And I wonder if he holds Chu Shuzhi's unwillingness to sacrifice Guo Changcheng for his "brother" against him as a betrayal ...)

Briefly, we see a memory after Chu Shuzhi collapses of the Chu twins

I thought this wasn't a real memory, but part of the fake flashback with the roles of the twins switched, which is a twisted dream the Nightmare Master gives him.

Chu Shuzhi startles awake and looks visibly confused. Zhao Yunlan tries to confirm with Chu Shuzhi that Shen Wei was chained to the sky pillar. Chu Shuzhi hesitantly agrees and says Shen Wei was unconscious and then he says the most telling line (IMO!!) of: I don't really know what's going on. He says Shen Wei didn't seem in danger but he couldn't break the chains. He says Ye Zun wouldn't let him die so easily. Then he says Changcheng was tired, so I sent him back. Chu Shuzhi, still acting confused, says he has to leave now too, but Zhao Yunlan convinces him to go rest in the library, but don't fall asleep.

I initially wasn't 100% sure if this bit was real.

Before this, the Dixing sequence is all real, since we see the follow-up (Shen Wei rescuing Guo Changcheng) later. The Chu twins flashback isn't, since the roles are switched and Nianzhi is portrayed as the cheeky troublemaker and Chuzhi as the earnest one. With this scene, we know Chu Shuzhi did get back to Haixing: he ultimately wakes from the dream here, so presumably Ye Zun sent him back after he fell unconscious, so that part checks out. And he must have reported to Zhao Yunlan after returning, so that makes sense as well. More importantly, Zhao Yunlan sends him to rest in the library, which is where he ultimately wakes up from the dream (next episode), and waking up in the same place as he fell asleep is the most obvious reading. So it makes the most sense to me if this scene is real, and the startling awake a red herring.

There's one reason I doubted it for a little while: Chu Shuzhi telling Zhao Yunlan he sent Guo Changcheng back, pretending he didn't die - but then when he ultimately wakes from the dream, Zhao Yunlan knows the truth anyway. But rewatching the scene again, Zhao Yunlan does seem to have some kind of reaction when Chu Shuzhi says it - I think he knows Chu Shuzhi is in denial. He certainly can't miss how utterly out of it Chu Shuzhi is!

(Also, I think works better if Chu Shuzhi wakes up from a twin-switch fake flashback here in actual reality, and then later wakes up from more twin-switch flashbacks in the dream with Guo Changcheng, confusing reality levels for him!)

Chu Shuzhi pushes back again saying it's impossible and Guo Changcheng says: Chu-ge. Aren't you happy I'm fine? (Nightmare Master is such a manipulator!!!)

Yeah, this is way more targeted than Zhu Hong's dream was, where she was really doing most of the work of not wanting to wake up herself! Here, dream!Changcheng is actively trying to wipe away Chu Shuzhi's doubts and convincing him this is real, pulling out all the stops. So the Nightmare Master's power is quite variable!

(Or is it Ye Zun's mind control power combined with the Nightmare Master's power? Because that sounds like a potent combination!)

As Guo Changcheng speaks we see Chu Shuzhi furtively pinch his thigh and when he feels the pain he smiles, because it means it's not a dream (BUT IT IS CHU SHUZHI IT IS).

I love this little detail! :D

We end with Nightmare Master, I mean Guo Changcheng, tucking Chu Shuzhi back down on the couch to sleep and Chu Shuzhi holding onto Changcheng's hand and looking him in the face.

Yeah, and this should have been the point where Chu Shuzhi realised this couldn't be real, if nothing else did the trick, because encouraging him to sleep while the dream case hasn't been resolved? How about no? Zhao Yunlan even warned him about that earlier!

First, when Chu Shuzhi was talking to Zhao Yunlan he said he sent Guo Changcheng back, but when they see each other it's clear Chu Shuzhi knows what happened. Is this because Nightmare Master had made Chu Shuzhi say those words to Zhao Yunlan? A subliminal message/hypnosis as it were?

I think in that scene with Zhao Yunlan, he's very clearly out of it and full of guilt and grieving, so he still knows what happened even if he's not saying it. And like I said above, I read it as Chu Shuzhi being in denial about what happened, pretending it didn't because he can't face up to the reality of having got Guo Changcheng killed.

But it's great how this denial then ties into the dream where Guo Changcheng is alive, isn't it? The Nightmare Master is tapping into what Chu Shuzhi wants to be true, and given how he reacted to the fake Nianzhi earlier, it's clear that he's very susceptible to this right now.

Fourth, do you think the Nightmare Master's powers give a sense of how a person acts/thinks? That he can fool people so well, or is he just a great manipulator.

I think it must, yeah - not necessarily the real person, but the person as perceived by whoever he's manipulating. His power is so targeted, and he can use it to achieve certain specific ends (like here with Chu Shuzhi, and like we'll see with Lin Jing and the shield), and that has to mean he can deliberately access all those details about the person he's manipulating, and how they see the people they interact with, to make it plausible when he twists it all to his purposes.

We return to the dreams where we get a little more back story about Chu Shuzhi and Chu Nianzhi. We find Chu Nianzhi serving punishment for some infraction.

More of the switched roles! Like Chu Shuzhi says next episode, it's swapping their roles and in reality it was Chu Shuzhi who caused all the trouble, and (in his view) got his brother killed.

So this is a dream within a dream, something Chu Shuzhi knows isn't real - tempting him with a version of reality he might find easier to live with, like Zhu Hong and the dream world where she has Zhao Yunlan all to herself and doesn't have to deal with him prioritising Shen Wei. But here, like shadaras said on Discord, it's not meant to actually trap Chu Shuzhi - instead, waking up from this serves to convince Chu Shuzhi that the reality he wakes up to is actually real, when it's in fact another dream: "It's a lot harder to realise you gotta wake up when you've already woken up once!" And it helps that he already had a similar switched-roles dream a bit earlier.

Finally, our final act has the two walking outside in Haixing, and Chu Shuzhi wishes his dreams were reality and it ends there.

I love how that scene starts with fake!Guo Changcheng waking up, adding another layer of obfuscation to what's real and what's not! And he even reports dreaming about Chu Shuzhi killing him, which is what the real Guo Changcheng dreamed about earlier. (The Nightmare Master would know, obviously!) No wonder we were all so confused on first watch, LOL.

(And in-universe, all the talking about dreams that fake!Guo Changcheng does is presumably meant to convince Chu Shuzhi further that he's now awake ...)

I like how there's a call-back to earlier in the episode when Guo Changcheng was following after Chu Shuzhi in Dixing, but here, instead of anger, there's just exhaustion from Chu Shuzhi.

Yeah, that's a great callback! And I wonder if Lao-Chu's weariness is also because part of him knows this isn't real? If he just doesn't want to face it (yet), and lets himself believe it for a while, while he struggles with the other dream (the switched twin roles), which already isn't easy for him to deal with even though he knows it's not real?

What was your favorite part of this particular episode as we continue into the dream arc of the show? Was it Zhao Yunlan and Chu Shuzhi arguing several times? Was it the cannibal scene? I'm eager to hear!

It's the super intense confrontation between Chu Shuzhi and Zhao Yunlan at the beginning of the episode! Though everything with Chu Shuzhi is gold here. :D

When do you think the dream actually started? Was it when we see Guo Changcheng wake from his nightmare? Or was it after Guo Changcheng was 'killed' by Ye Zun? Or is Guo Chancheng really Guo Changcheng in this whole episode? I'm sure you can see my opinion in my write-up of what I think LOL XD

See above: I think everything until he falls asleep on the sofa in the library for the first time (sans Xiao-Guo) is real, save for the brief flashback-dream with the switched roles. After that, nothing is real.

How do you think Chu Shuzhi got back to the SID after being defeated by Ye Zun? Was it the Nightmare Master's doing? Do you think Zhao Yunlan had an inkling that something was wrong?

Pretty sure Ye Zun sent him back, since he actively wanted him there to use the Nightmare Master's powers against him. And we know he has the power to send people to Haixing.

I don't think Zhao Yunlan could have missed just how out of it Chu Shuzhi was, given how he was stumbling around, and Xiao-Guo's absence is also very conspicuous. I think he knows something must have gone terribly wrong. (I think he'd be angrier at Chu Shuzhi if he wasn't so clearly not doing well - and if Zhao Yunlan didn't also blame himself for sending Xiao-Guo after Chu Shuzhi ...)

Also, do you think with how confused Chu Shuzhi was acting that the Nightmare Master used his powers on him to remember things differently, which is why he acted so confused/stumbled and stuttered?

I think it's mainly grief and shock about what happened to Guo Changcheng, honestly. He can't quite cope with that being the reality, and his own fault for taking Xiao-Guo into Dixing.

Do you think when the Nightmare Master impersonates someone he can actually get a sense of the person with his powers? Or is he just real good at reading people and manipulation?

I didn't get the feeling he entirely impersonated other people - most of the dreams seem more like they're created from the person's own memory, just twisted. But he can deliberately interfere and put himself into a character's place where it suits him.

When the Regent was pretending not to know where Shen Wei was, what do you think that look at the very end was? I felt like it was significant in some ways, but I'm not sure what to read of it.

Good question! I honestly have no idea what's going on with the Regent at this point in time ...

Does everyone have a favorite Ye Zun scene? If so, what it is? :D

We haven't reached it yet in the rewatch, but my favourite Ye Zun bit is the scene at the Ministry with the golden mask and the cane. He just looks amazing. :D

(Honestly, I'm not fond of this "Ye Zun as a black energy cloud" phase, and I'm not sure why it exists.)

I still feel vaguely confused on the Chu twins background. Can someone confirm that I am not reading things incorrectly and that there are at least two (maybe three) versions of the Chu twins background between 32 and 33?

IIRC there are two versions? The fake roleswapped version where Chu Nianzhi was the troublemaker (the Nightmare Master's creation), and the real one where Chu Shuzhi was the troublemaker.

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And Xiao-Guo's overt fear is also very reminiscent of those early episodes. He hasn't been afraid of Lao-Chu in forever!

At the risk of being super nit-picky (lol, that ship has long since sailed), I'm not sure he was ever afraid of Chu Shuzhi? The first time they met was when Chu Shuzhi rescued Li Yufen and Guo Changcheng from the Shadow Man, whereupon Guo Changcheng imprinted on Chu Shuzhi as a hero (and the one person in the SID who hadn't hazed him) and followed him around like a duckling, clinging to his coat-tails. But he was similarly scared of a lot of other things back then, yeah.

but I don't think I quite realised before that of course a big part of it all is that after the bait the Regent dangled in front of him in Ye Zun's name, he's planning to go straight after Ye Zun, so of course he's trying to stop Xiao-Guo from following him there! He's all out of common sense in a lot of respects right now, but not so much that he'd voluntarily drag Xiao-Guo into that.

Oh, yes, excellent point! It's not just generalised "get away from me!" at all.

Also, it just struck me that after Zhao Yunlan last episode trying to push Zhu Hong away, here we have Chu Shuzhi trying to push Guo Changcheng away. And despite both relationships being nothing like each other, neither attempt works.

Ooooh, awesome parallel-spotting! (I think there are a lot of similarities in those relationships, actually, though also a lot of points of difference.)

And the whole "kill Guo Changcheng and I'll give Nianzhi back to you" is so evil! But Chu Shuzhi won't take that deal, no matter how out of his mind he is, so Ye Zun has to (fake-)kill him himself.

It's unclear to me how sincerely Ye Zun tried to kill Changcheng, because of [next episode stuff]. He hasn't turned him into a sleeper agent yet, so it might actually be genuine attempted murder.

Also, OMG, Ye Zun must have so many feelings pretending to be someone else's twin didi! Torturing Chu Shuzhi in his own gege's place! And I wonder if he holds Chu Shuzhi's unwillingness to sacrifice Guo Changcheng for his "brother" against him as a betrayal ...

Ohh. *shivers* Such a good point!

So it makes the most sense to me if this scene is real, and the startling awake a red herring.

Agreed.

Yeah, this is way more targeted than Zhu Hong's dream was, where she was really doing most of the work of not wanting to wake up herself! Here, dream!Changcheng is actively trying to wipe away Chu Shuzhi's doubts and convincing him this is real, pulling out all the stops. So the Nightmare Master's power is quite variable!

Given the Nightmare Guy's goal is to shut down the security barrier, I wonder how much Zhao Yunlan's presence in the dream interfered with whatever direction he was going to take it in. The fact that ZYL jumped into the middle of it did, inevitably, make it all about Zhu Hong's feelings for him, rather than anything more easily manipulatable.

I think he'd be angrier at Chu Shuzhi if he wasn't so clearly not doing well - and if Zhao Yunlan didn't also blame himself for sending Xiao-Guo after Chu Shuzhi

*nodnod* Agreed on both counts.

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At the risk of being super nit-picky (lol, that ship has long since sailed), I'm not sure he was ever afraid of Chu Shuzhi?

No, you're right, when he was super afraid while trailing after Chu Shuzhi at the start, it wasn't Chu Shuzhi he was afraid of, just everything else. *g*

(I think there are a lot of similarities in those relationships, actually, though also a lot of points of difference.)

Oh, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts about that!

It's unclear to me how sincerely Ye Zun tried to kill Changcheng, because of [next episode stuff]. He hasn't turned him into a sleeper agent yet, so it might actually be genuine attempted murder.

I think if he'd genuinely intended to kill him he'd just have eaten him. And even if not, he's so overpowered, I can't see him fail at hitting hard enough to kill, so to speak.

Given the Nightmare Guy's goal is to shut down the security barrier, I wonder how much Zhao Yunlan's presence in the dream interfered with whatever direction he was going to take it in. The fact that ZYL jumped into the middle of it did, inevitably, make it all about Zhu Hong's feelings for him, rather than anything more easily manipulatable.

I think it was always going to be about her feelings for him, given that it starts (before real!ZYL turns up) with a scene of her literally falling into Zhao Yunlan's arms, but that's a good point about real!ZYL derailing the dream entirely! Can't have fake ZYL manipulating her when real ZYL is right there. *g*

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It properly belongs to next episode, but it's such a good angsty Lao-Chu icon! :D

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No, you're right, when he was super afraid while trailing after Chu Shuzhi at the start, it wasn't Chu Shuzhi he was afraid of, just everything else. *g*

LOL, exactly. (In retrospect, it's kind of hilarious that he was terrified of Da Qing, but decided Chu Shuzhi was his knight in shining armour black. :D)

Re: comparing the ZH/&ZYL relationship and the GCC/CSZ ship, I was just thinking fairly obvious things, like the power differential that evens out a bit over time, Zhu Hong having looked to Zhao Yunlan as a mentor, and the combination of work and personal emotions. GCC/CSZ are actually much more functional and better at expressing their feelings, though, whether it's "don't presume too much" (at the start) or showing affection later on; they understand each other, where Zhu Hong stubbornly refuses to understand Zhao Yunlan. (I expect my reading is a bit different from yours because I ship ChuGuo.)

And even if not, he's so overpowered, I can't see him fail at hitting hard enough to kill, so to speak.

In the next episode, Da Qing tells Chu Shuzhi, "Chief Zhao said when Xiao Guo was attacked by Ye Zun, Hei Pao Shi saved him. He used up his last reserve of strength to protect Xiao Guo." I thought he might have blocked Ye Zun's attack a little, as well as sending him away? Or his power had somewhat revived Changcheng? Either that, or Ye Zun wanted Changcheng to die slowly and painfully where Shen Wei could see him. (Ye Zun wouldn't gain much by eating him: he doesn't need any more human vitamins, and Changcheng doesn't have a power to acquire.)

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Re: comparing the ZH/&ZYL relationship and the GCC/CSZ ship, I was just thinking fairly obvious things, like the power differential that evens out a bit over time, Zhu Hong having looked to Zhao Yunlan as a mentor, and the combination of work and personal emotions. GCC/CSZ are actually much more functional and better at expressing their feelings, though, whether it's "don't presume too much" (at the start) or showing affection later on; they understand each other, where Zhu Hong stubbornly refuses to understand Zhao Yunlan. (I expect my reading is a bit different from yours because I ship ChuGuo.)

I mostly agree with all of this! Doesn't have to be romantic to work. Though for the Zhu Hong situation, Zhao Yunlan is also contributing; it's not just her refusing to understand. They're both being much worse at this than Lao-Chu and Xiao-Guo. *g*

In the next episode, Da Qing tells Chu Shuzhi, "Chief Zhao said when Xiao Guo was attacked by Ye Zun, Hei Pao Shi saved him. He used up his last reserve of strength to protect Xiao Guo." I thought he might have blocked Ye Zun's attack a little, as well as sending him away? Or his power had somewhat revived Changcheng?

I thought it was just referring to him sending Xiao-Guo away from Ye Zun. I think he was still unconscious when Ye Zun struck at Guo Changcheng? My theory was that Ye Zun was actually keeping Xiao-Guo in reserve to use him against his brother or the SID later. But I guess we'd better leave that for the next discussion post ...

(Ye Zun wouldn't gain much by eating him: he doesn't need any more human vitamins, and Changcheng doesn't have a power to acquire.)

True, but Lin Jing didn't gain him anything either, and he still ate him.

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Though for the Zhu Hong situation, Zhao Yunlan is also contributing; it's not just her refusing to understand. They're both being much worse at this than Lao-Chu and Xiao-Guo. *g*

Excellent point, yeah.

True, but Lin Jing didn't gain him anything either, and he still ate him.

Also a good point!

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The two puppets we see in Haixing seem to be treated as one, at least - it was the larger one we saw in Zhu Hong's dream.

Oh, good point! Thanks for noting that!

And I love that part of this is because they're both on edge because they're worrying about what's happening with Shen Wei in Dixing, and neither of them deals well with problems they can't do anything about!

Yes! Plus they both know the other is worried -- so they kind of yelling at each other as proxies for yelling at the problem itself, maybe?

Pretty sure they're both glad Da Qing interrupted them before things escalated even more.

Ha, yes. Also, love that Da Qing is not at all intimidated by the angry vibes they're emanating. <3

And Zhao Yunlan decides to go to Dixing after all, only for Da Qing to be the voice of reason and stop him because it's too dangerous.

I love that Da Qing tells him he can't go. It's like his take-charge deputy-ness is still in effect from earlier.

Subtitles: When Ye Zun says, 杀人诛心, Solo's subs just render it as "destroy"; the original subs have it as "It's better to conquer one's mind than destroy his body.", and the Viki subs have it as "Kill someone by killing the people's trust in them." I would really like an explanation of the original phrase, because this is way beyond my rudimentary Chinese, LOL.

Me too!! (The Viki subs do work well thematically, imo...)

Yes! No matter how angry he was or how he threatened to fire Chu Shuzhi, he's not going to let anyone else target him!

He didn't actually threaten to fire Chu Shuzhi, though, did he? He said, "If you don't want to work here—" which leaves the choice in Chu Shuzhi's hands? (He would never fire Chu Shuzhi outright, because on top of needing him, and Chu Shuzhi being one of ZYL's people, it was Shen Wei who put Chu Shuzhi at the SID.) I mean, I know ZYL's tone of voice was very angry and growly, and he wasn't giving Chu Shuzhi much room to move, but it's still different from, "I don't want you working here anymore." Idk. /only just thinking about it from this angle now...

Also, interestingly, what he's telling Minister Gao to do about the current crisis is block comments (there's the censorship again) and otherwise pretend nothing happened.

Ha, yeah. After all, suppressing info was Minister Gao's strategy in the first place, and now he's not even willing to go all the way with it.

But Minister Gao isn't good at doing nothing - like Zhao Yunlan, like Chu Shuzhi, except in his case it manifests in trying to further undermine the people most qualified to actually deal with the actual threat.

Great point! I wonder who he expects to deal with Ye Zun, once the SID has been shut down!

But he won't do that to begin with, in response to the leaks and rumours, where it might actually be helpful!

Yeeeah, although trying to shut down gossip could possibly lead to more, worse gossip -- including complaints of censorship that would make the DoS a target, too.

And it's not entirely clear to me what everyone else knows about Chu Shuzhi's background. Zhao Yunlan obviously knows; Da Qing knows (because he's about to tell Xiao-Guo in episode 15, but Lao-Chu glares him into shutting up), but does Zhu Hong? She seems so indignant on his behalf.

Even the ones who know probably only know half the story, I think? (Know he's a convicted murderer; probably don't know the ins and outs of what happened?) I can't imagine the Envoy or Chu Shuzhi would have gone into much detail.

I think it's because he feels he's staved off the problems with the Ministry for now - a small but significant win, when Minister Gao could easily have doubled down and tried to forcibly shut down the SID.

I don't see how ZYL would know that Minister Gao isn't in the process of doing that. ZYL basically declared war on Minister Gao, dared him to go after Chu Shuzhi, and then left before Minister Gao could respond.

Also, it's fascinating to me that Zhu Hong, who's never been to Dixing before, offers to go instead!

To rescue Shen Wei, too! A sign that she's resolved her jealousy, even if her feelings for Zhao Yunlan persist.

It sounds to me like it's more about how his backstory is presented/twisted in what's gone public, because that's what he's talking about here - what happened 100 years ago?

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Ya Qing has slandered Nianzhi.

I wonder whether if he knew how cautious Shen Wei was about taking Zhao Yunlan to Dixing at all

Oh, good question. I'm not sure that's something either of them would have told the rest of the team? Zhao Yunlan, because he wouldn't want a fuss, and Shen Wei, because he wouldn't want to undermine Zhao Yunlan's capable persona in front of his team. What do you think?

When he first arrives, the Regent tells him to be patient since it's still a few days until his release

I assumed that Shen Wei had taken Chu Shuzhi to Haixing on the understanding that he'd work out the rest of his sentence at the SID. So if that sentence is nearly up, presumably it means afterwards Chu Shuzhi can decide for himself what to do with his future (unless he provokes the Regent into extending his punishment). The Regent wouldn't be aware that Chu Shuzhi has become a core member of the team by now, so that's what Chu Shuzhi is saying when he declares he wears the shackles voluntarily, I think? (I didn't think the shackles were literal, but I suppose they could be.)

We see some kind of grass when Chu Shuzhi digs out the box

Oh, good point.

I wonder how he got that idea, and how he knew where to find the puppet, since he presumably hasn't had the opportunity to personally get his hooks into Chu Shuzhi yet. From the Nightmare Master, who's been scoping out all their vulnerabilities? Or from the Regent?

The Regent or the Deacon, maybe? Ye Zun has had plenty of time to come up with ways to manipulate the SID, individually and as a team, after all...

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Yes! Plus they both know the other is worried -- so they kind of yelling at each other as proxies for yelling at the problem itself, maybe?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me!

I love that Da Qing tells him he can't go. It's like his take-charge deputy-ness is still in effect from earlier.

100% agreed! Da Qing is such a cat, it's easy to just see the naps and the fish snacks, but I love it when he gets to show his competence. ♥

(The Viki subs do work well thematically, imo...)

Fully agreed! I just wish I knew how accurate it is ...

Yes! No matter how angry he was or how he threatened to fire Chu Shuzhi, he's not going to let anyone else target him!

He didn't actually threaten to fire Chu Shuzhi, though, did he? He said, "If you don't want to work here—" which leaves the choice in Chu Shuzhi's hands?

"If you don't want to work here, get o---" (which is a pretty faithful translation as far as I can tell) does sound like a threat to me: get back in line or get out.

but it's still different from, "I don't want you working here anymore."

Yes, absolutely! He's not ACTUALLY firing him, and he doesn't ACTUALLY want him to get out, he's waving the threat around as an expression of his anger, without truly meaning it. I totally agree that he never would!

I wonder who he expects to deal with Ye Zun, once the SID has been shut down!

I expect his head is buried so deeply in the sand right now, he can't see that coming any more, only the grains of sand in his eyes RIGHT NOW. *g*

Even the ones who know probably only know half the story, I think? (Know he's a convicted murderer; probably don't know the ins and outs of what happened?) I can't imagine the Envoy or Chu Shuzhi would have gone into much detail.

Yeah, agreed, I don't think anyone other than Shen Wei knows any details whatsoever.

I don't see how ZYL would know that Minister Gao isn't in the process of doing that. ZYL basically declared war on Minister Gao, dared him to go after Chu Shuzhi, and then left before Minister Gao could respond.

He can't know, that's true. But I he does seem to feel confident about it. Maybe he thinks he knows Minister Gao well enough to predict him?

To rescue Shen Wei, too! A sign that she's resolved her jealousy, even if her feelings for Zhao Yunlan persist.

Yes! Excellent point! ♥ ♥ ♥

I'm not sure that's something either of them would have told the rest of the team? Zhao Yunlan, because he wouldn't want a fuss, and Shen Wei, because he wouldn't want to undermine Zhao Yunlan's capable persona in front of his team. What do you think?

Yeah, I'm with you on this, I don't think either of them would have talked about it in front of the team, with the possible exception of Da Qing.

I assumed that Shen Wei had taken Chu Shuzhi to Haixing on the understanding that he'd work out the rest of his sentence at the SID. So if that sentence is nearly up, presumably it means afterwards Chu Shuzhi can decide for himself what to do with his future (unless he provokes the Regent into extending his punishment). The Regent wouldn't be aware that Chu Shuzhi has become a core member of the team by now, so that's what Chu Shuzhi is saying when he declares he wears the shackles voluntarily, I think? (I didn't think the shackles were literal, but I suppose they could be.)

That works as a possible interpretation! I guess it just sounded like something more literal to me, on top of it all - that there was some sort of restraint on Chu Shuzhi for the duration of his sentence. Either way, I think his response to the Regent warning/taunting him is mainly about making it clear the Regent can't use the risk of not getting released against him.

The Regent or the Deacon, maybe? Ye Zun has had plenty of time to come up with ways to manipulate the SID, individually and as a team, after all...

Very true! Plenty of options. I was just wondering if it was the Regent because the Regent was the one who wouldn't let Chu Shuzhi take his brother's puppet to Haixing.

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"If you don't want to work here, get o---" (which is a pretty faithful translation as far as I can tell) does sound like a threat to me: get back in line or get out.

True -- but they both know Chu Shuzhi can't quit any more than Zhao Yunlan can fire him, and for at least one of the same reasons: Shen Wei. So it reads to me a bit like Zhao Yunlan's CSZ-management strategy (like threatening Lin Jing's bonuses), but with a lot of additional frustration.

I expect his head is buried so deeply in the sand right now, he can't see that coming any more, only the grains of sand in his eyes RIGHT NOW. *g*

/o\ (You know, these seem like big decisions to have in one person's hands. I feel like there should be a committee...)

Maybe he thinks he knows Minister Gao well enough to predict him?

Yeah, maybe...

Either way, I think his response to the Regent warning/taunting him is mainly about making it clear the Regent can't use the risk of not getting released against him.

Yeah, exactly.

because the Regent was the one who wouldn't let Chu Shuzhi take his brother's puppet to Haixing.

I don't remember that. (Argh, all this stuff falls straight out of my head again. /o\) But anyway, the Deacon could well know about that and passed it on. I don't think the Regent is pro-Ye Zun enough to give him more ammunition than he has to.

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So it reads to me a bit like Zhao Yunlan's CSZ-management strategy (like threatening Lin Jing's bonuses), but with a lot of additional frustration.

Yeah, that makes sense! (A LOT of frustration. *g*)

I don't remember that. (Argh, all this stuff falls straight out of my head again. /o\)

After Chu Shuzhi digs up the box, finds Nianzhi's puppet gone and storms into the palace. One of the things he says is (Solo's subs) "three years ago, you didn't allow me to take him with me, because you could use him to threaten me" - but I just rechecked, and it's actually not targeted at the Regent specifically; it's plural you.

I don't think the Regent is pro-Ye Zun enough to give him more ammunition than he has to.

Yeah, good point! He isn't pro-anything enough to help voluntarily (other than himself). *g*

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After Chu Shuzhi digs up the box, finds Nianzhi's puppet gone and storms into the palace. One of the things he says is (Solo's subs) "three years ago, you didn't allow me to take him with me, because you could use him to threaten me" - but I just rechecked, and it's actually not targeted at the Regent specifically; it's plural you.

Huh, interesting. I wonder if that's a condition that the Regent insisted on if the Envoy was determined to let a murderer loose on the streets of Haixing. I can't imagine Shen Wei would have been very happy about separating the twins...

He isn't pro-anything enough to help voluntarily (other than himself). *g*

Ha, true. But I think he is actively anti-Ye Zun. He sent a siege squad, after all (however ineptly)!

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I wonder if that's a condition that the Regent insisted on if the Envoy was determined to let a murderer loose on the streets of Haixing.

Yeah, I could absolutely see that!

But I think he is actively anti-Ye Zun. He sent a siege squad, after all (however ineptly)!

True. It's one of the very few positives about him.

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This post is so good! ♥ - THANK YOU! I’m so glad you enjoyed it :D

The way Chu Shuzhi talks about the puppet (holding the smaller form in his hand): "He only takes action when there's danger ..." as if he were a separate person - foreshadowing the thing with Nianzhi's puppet? But I have to admit that bit isn't quite clear to me. The two puppets we see in Haixing seem to be treated as one, at least - it was the larger one we saw in Zhu Hong's dream. I hope it'll all become clearer to me on this rewatch! - I’ve caught a few times where he seems to talk about the puppet as its own person. I think I took that to mean it was his brother in there as well, but it seems like it’s not as episode 32 goes on? It is definitely confusing XD

Yeah, Chu Shuzhi only starts shouting back after Zhao Yunlan accuses him of getting too bold for the SID. I think that's because all Chu Shuzhi has been doing has been trying to deal with the current SID crisis as best he could - he even says here, "I just wanted to solve the problem", and then Zhao Yunlan threatens to fire him in return. They're both so angry! - Totally agree. They are both so angry, but Chu Shuzhi is really trying to help!!

(And I love that part of this is because they're both on edge because they're worrying about what's happening with Shen Wei in Dixing, and neither of them deals well with problems they can't do anything about!) - Yes yes! I love this thought so much :D

Zhao Yunlan cares so much for his people - and here he's almost firing Chu Shuzhi out of protectiveness. Meanwhile Chu Shuzhi is also being protective, even if it manifests differently! Pretty sure they're both glad Da Qing interrupted them before things escalated even more. - I agree 100%. Da Qing’s timely arrival gave them both a chance to step back and collect themselves. XD XD Such a good cat.

(The subtitles have Chu Shuzhi saying Zhu Hong "deserves what she gets" - pretty harsh! As far as I can tell, the Chinese says something more like "she brought it on herself", which isn't quite the same thing IMO. Still, can't blame Zhao Yunlan for being angry about that!) - YES! I caught that too! It was definitely a harsh criticism from Chu Shuzhi.

Zhao Yunlan: "So we just stay here and wait to die?" - but when Chu Shuzhi offers to go in his stead, Zhao Yunlan's reason kicks in despite his anger and frustration, and he says he needs to think about it. Because it's different when the danger is to someone else! *g* - So true. ZYL is okay with sacrificing himself, but not his people, which echoes Shen Wei sacrificing himself for Zhao Yunlan in its own way too! This show really did such great echoes and mirrors between the story points and characters.

Very good question! I didn't think Ye Zun could take others' powers without eating them (though he can presumably spit them out again?), and this looks nothing like that power. I feel like it may be a threat, that he's just torturing him and threatening he'll "borrow" his powers (i.e. eat him) if he doesn't measure up? - Agree. I do think now it’s a here’s a taste of what you’ll get if you don’t succeed. Oh Ye Zun XD




*double-checks* Oh, good catch! I'm not sure what that is about either. Maybe just that she's feeling better about everything now that her issues with Zhao Yunlan have been resolved? - Yes! And china_shop brought up the point that perhaps it’s due to her self-criticism being done as well! All good points :D

And when Da Qing reminds him dreams aren't real (and therefore safe to gossip about, LOL) Xiao-Guo looks at Chu Shuzhi, because he's worried about his dream becoming real. Which is fascinating, because at this point the viewer is primed to think that LOL nope, of course Lao-Chu wouldn't strangle him - but then later in this episode, he does! Which just adds to the weirdness of this entire arc, where dream and reality are easily confused for each other and it's hard to tell (especially on first viewing) what's real and what isn't. But what Da Qing says here is right: "Anything could happen here." - I love when Guo Changcheng looks over at Chu Shuzhi and you can just see that worry of ‘omg is my dream going to come true’ on his face. AND YES I have to agree completely that on first viewing it is so confusing! I mean on second viewing too and third (I have rewatched this episode many times now for this write-up LOL) and there are still points that I can’t necessarily tell what’s going on.

Also, Zhao Yunlan is so stiff in this scene, so physically constrained in a way he very rarely is. Despite the angry speech, he's still holding on so very tightly to his self-control! So different to how animated his anger is in the scene with Chu Shuzhi. (It's different with family!) - Oooh. He is so stiff in the scene. I hadn’t caught that until you mentioned it and I went back and rewatched! Even his expression is very closed, tight. Awesome catch!

Zhao Yunlan is so completely out of line speaking to his superior! He has zero chill left, and zero interest in making nice with the bureaucrats. I think the attempt to shut down the SID (which appears to have been rescinded for the time being) was the last straw for him and now he's no longer considering the Ministry in his decisions at all. He even dares the Minister to go after Chu Shuzhi, making it blatantly clear the SID isn't under the Ministry's control any more. - He definitely has no chill left, agree 100%!

(Also, when Zhao Yunlan returns to the SID, Da Qing is still worried about the SID being shut down, but Zhao Yunlan just says "If they do, we reopen." We're definitely in full-on vigilante mode from hereon.) - Such vigilante mode, so much so! His family and Shen Wei are in danger. Nothing going to stop him!

He's losing control! I love that it starts like this, and then slides into the full deranged laughter act later in Dixing, tying it all together smoothly because it's not coming out of nowhere. - YES! I had the same thoughts. Like Chu Shuzhi has stepped past the line of restraining himself, or acting logically, this begins the descent of really acting rashly and recklessly!

Ooh, good question! It sounds to me like it's more about how his backstory is presented/twisted in what's gone public, because that's what he's talking about here - what happened 100 years ago? - I sure do wish we had his whole backstory revealed in the show XD Sometimes I forget that his crimes WERE 100 years ago, just because Dixing in the flashbacks seems very similar to Dixing of now. But agree that he is definitely angered at how they’re twisting his past!


RIGHT??? Now Chu Shuzhi is resorting to serious temptation, trying to make Zhao Yunlan let him do what he feels he needs to - he's leveraging Zhao Yunlan's feelings for Shen Wei against him. Which, so much love! - SO MUCH TEMPTATION. And he knows he’s doing it too! I think that’s why it’s so surprising to Chu Shuzhi when Zhao Yunlan actually says no and means it!!

Yes, exactly! Though I wonder - what does Zhao Yunlan expect, telling Xiao-Guo to follow Chu Shuzhi? He clearly doesn't expect Chu Shuzhi to obey him - does he think Xiao-Guo's presence will stop Chu Shuzhi from going to Dixing? In which case he's spectacularly wrong, given how Chu Shuzhi even kicks Guo Changcheng into the passage! Not even ditching him but taking him along - Chu Shuzhi isn't evaluating the risk correctly there at all ... (I wonder whether if he knew how cautious Shen Wei was about taking Zhao Yunlan to Dixing at all, much less under such circumstances, he'd have evaluated things differently? Or maybe he's too worked up right now, I'm not sure.) - I had similar thoughts as you. Like he has to know what Chu Shuzhi is going to do. Oh, and such a good mention of how Chu Shuzhi doesn’t have worries about taking Guo Changcheng down there. Possibly he is too worked up? Maybe he doesn’t know the full extent of how harmful it can be to Haixingrens? Ahhh the possibilities!!

Maybe a little bit of both? I love the idea that Dixing's atmosphere/smell is having a visceral effect on him. ♥ - I love that idea too! Just a punch in the face of feelings for Chu Shuzhi, maybe some good/some bad, and something that he hasn’t had any time to potentially prepare for/or deal with since they’re pretty much right there in the palace.

I'm fascinated with everything this scene implies about Chu Shuzhi's punishment. When he first arrives, the Regent tells him to be patient since it's still a few days until his release, implying there's something to release him from that would need the Regent's action, and when they're talking about the Spring and Autumn shackles it sounds as if he's still wearing them in some form, which makes me wonder in what ways he's still being restrained, and what he might be capable of without that ... - Oh, this is such an interesting thought. What if what we’ve seen isn’t Chu Shuzhi’s full capabilities with his powers? So interesting!!! I really love this thought!!

Nianzhi's puppet being missing seems to be Ye Zun's doing, since the Regent is passing on a message from Ye Zun about "taking care of his brother". I wonder how he got that idea, and how he knew where to find the puppet, since he presumably hasn't had the opportunity to personally get his hooks into Chu Shuzhi yet. From the Nightmare Master, who's been scoping out all their vulnerabilities? Or from the Regent? - I felt like this was probably the Regent sliding some inside information to Ye Zun. Maybe to ‘show’ how he’s on ‘Ye Zun’s side’. Or cement that he’s a good little lackey to Ye Zun.

I know I have a few more parts to respond to but I just wanted to say THANK YOU so much for responding with such lovely comments, and so sorry it took me forever to respond back, but know I’ve read every single one! :Heartheartheartheart:!!!

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I’ve caught a few times where he seems to talk about the puppet as its own person. I think I took that to mean it was his brother in there as well, but it seems like it’s not as episode 32 goes on? It is definitely confusing XD

Yeah, I'm still not clear at all how the puppet works! But at least things are a little clearer than they used to be, about the distinction between Chu Shuzhi's puppet and Chu Nianzhi's puppet ...

So true. ZYL is okay with sacrificing himself, but not his people, which echoes Shen Wei sacrificing himself for Zhao Yunlan in its own way too! This show really did such great echoes and mirrors between the story points and characters.

Yes! I love it so much!

Like Chu Shuzhi has stepped past the line of restraining himself, or acting logically, this begins the descent of really acting rashly and recklessly!

It's such a fascinating escalation as he more and more loses control/lets go of all his emotional restraint. The contrast is amazing, seeing him so emotional and expressive!

Sometimes I forget that his crimes WERE 100 years ago, just because Dixing in the flashbacks seems very similar to Dixing of now.

Yeah, it doesn't look any different at all, and there are even the same people around as much later (as in the Regent, the Attendant and Ding Dun)! And 100 years are such a long time; it's hard to take it seriously as a time span when there's no real visual signifier to keep the time periods apart-

And he knows he’s doing it too! I think that’s why it’s so surprising to Chu Shuzhi when Zhao Yunlan actually says no and means it!!

100% agreed!

Oh, this is such an interesting thought. What if what we’ve seen isn’t Chu Shuzhi’s full capabilities with his powers? So interesting!!! I really love this thought!!

Yay! I really enjoyed speculating about that too. So much potential!

I know I have a few more parts to respond to but I just wanted to say THANK YOU so much for responding with such lovely comments, and so sorry it took me forever to respond back, but know I’ve read every single one! :Heartheartheartheart:!!!

♥ ♥ ♥ right back at you! :D

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Maybe a little bit of both? I love the idea that Dixing's atmosphere/smell is having a visceral effect on him. ♥ - I love that idea too! Just a punch in the face of feelings for Chu Shuzhi, maybe some good/some bad, and something that he hasn’t had any time to potentially prepare for/or deal with since they’re pretty much right there in the palace.

Ohh, I love that!