Also, similar to what we were saying about Zhu Hong, Da Qing's response is kinda off here too. Like literally he is being, Oooh Yunlan just got a call from a GIRL! As if they are in middle school or something xD To me it only seems to make sense if he is trying to provoke Zhu Hong on purpose here, but then again Zhu Hong's response seems to confirm this means something...
I generally don't do this, but in this case, I think it's probably down to narrative causality. Like, the show wanted them to gossip about this, and that was the thing that prompted them to.
Actually here's a new thought — do you think Da Qing already knows that Zhao Yunlan is planning the book con at this point, and that's why he is so sure this is gossip worthy?
Hm, I think that would make the fact that it's a girl selling the books even less relevant, wouldn't it?
I hadn't thought that it was referring to him being interested in women — I had kinda just taken for granted that the entire SID knew about his sexuality already.
This is making me go, "But what if they didn't??" *g*
Hmm 惦记 is a softer feeling than obsessing. It doesn't have to be romantic either. It speaks to a level of care, and I would say even longing in a sense.
That's such a lovely description, even if I don't have a good word to encapsulate it. <3 <3 <3
But I do think DQ would absolutely complain to the SID about ZYL being a slob xD
And they'd all think he was exaggerating... until he brought photographic evidence. *g*
It matches, too, with what he tells Zhu Hong about not having expected things to end well for him since he took over as SID chief. Given what Zhao Xinci's SID job did to his parents, I can absolutely see him thinking this way. (Which brings to question why he became SID chief in the first place, and whether it was a position he applied for or if he was picked for it.)
I think it's a mirror image of young Shen Wei, isn't it? He sees what needs to be done and figures he should be the one to do it: "otherwise it's better not to live in this world." And because he's committed to that, he doesn't let himself have nice things (except the car and the motorbike).
The way that I read ZYL is that his lack of success with serious relationships was not really his choice. I felt like there was a kind of resignation when he talks about himself not being made for love that suggests he may have tried but it never worked out (probably because of the ton of emotional baggage, poor boy) — although you could definitely interpret that a number of different ways.
I love that it can be read in so many ways. I tend to read it as his not having had those deep feelings before. Like, his heart isn't made to love that hard, in that committed family way... and he kind of puts Shen Wei into a difference category of, basically, soul mate, so that saying it isn't even a contradiction in ZYL's eyes? Idk.
he gets himself drunk to hide from his feelings, only for it to lead him directly back to SW and more feelings.
Yes! Plus the embarrassment of having Shen Wei see what a disaster he is, when he's already super-embarrassed about the con.
It's the scene in the car where SW and ZYL says that she's still immature.
Oh, yes, that. I guess I've always hoped that was a mistranslation of, like, "she's young, it's a crush." But also, they both have agendas in that conversation, about each other and their relationship, and downplaying Zhu Hong's feelings might be part of that? Or they might just be being sexist... ;-p
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I generally don't do this, but in this case, I think it's probably down to narrative causality. Like, the show wanted them to gossip about this, and that was the thing that prompted them to.
Actually here's a new thought — do you think Da Qing already knows that Zhao Yunlan is planning the book con at this point, and that's why he is so sure this is gossip worthy?
Hm, I think that would make the fact that it's a girl selling the books even less relevant, wouldn't it?
I hadn't thought that it was referring to him being interested in women — I had kinda just taken for granted that the entire SID knew about his sexuality already.
This is making me go, "But what if they didn't??" *g*
Hmm 惦记 is a softer feeling than obsessing. It doesn't have to be romantic either. It speaks to a level of care, and I would say even longing in a sense.
That's such a lovely description, even if I don't have a good word to encapsulate it. <3 <3 <3
But I do think DQ would absolutely complain to the SID about ZYL being a slob xD
And they'd all think he was exaggerating... until he brought photographic evidence. *g*
It matches, too, with what he tells Zhu Hong about not having expected things to end well for him since he took over as SID chief. Given what Zhao Xinci's SID job did to his parents, I can absolutely see him thinking this way. (Which brings to question why he became SID chief in the first place, and whether it was a position he applied for or if he was picked for it.)
I think it's a mirror image of young Shen Wei, isn't it? He sees what needs to be done and figures he should be the one to do it: "otherwise it's better not to live in this world." And because he's committed to that, he doesn't let himself have nice things (except the car and the motorbike).
The way that I read ZYL is that his lack of success with serious relationships was not really his choice. I felt like there was a kind of resignation when he talks about himself not being made for love that suggests he may have tried but it never worked out (probably because of the ton of emotional baggage, poor boy) — although you could definitely interpret that a number of different ways.
I love that it can be read in so many ways. I tend to read it as his not having had those deep feelings before. Like, his heart isn't made to love that hard, in that committed family way... and he kind of puts Shen Wei into a difference category of, basically, soul mate, so that saying it isn't even a contradiction in ZYL's eyes? Idk.
he gets himself drunk to hide from his feelings, only for it to lead him directly back to SW and more feelings.
Yes! Plus the embarrassment of having Shen Wei see what a disaster he is, when he's already super-embarrassed about the con.
It's the scene in the car where SW and ZYL says that she's still immature.
Oh, yes, that. I guess I've always hoped that was a mistranslation of, like, "she's young, it's a crush." But also, they both have agendas in that conversation, about each other and their relationship, and downplaying Zhu Hong's feelings might be part of that? Or they might just be being sexist... ;-p