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Focus on: Guo Ying and Yu Jinlan
Guo Ying and Yu Jinlan are Guo Changcheng’s uncle and aunt. They raised him after his parents died, and Changcheng still lives with them.
Let’s talk about Yu Jinlan first, since there is less about her in the drama. She appears only in two episodes – once when Guo Changcheng brings Chu Shuzhi home for the Reunion Festival dinner. And a few episodes later when Sha Ya tries to force Guo Ying to tell her the schedule of the top officials at the Haixing Inspectorate and Xingdu Bureau, and she attacks Guo Ying and Yu Jinlan in the street. Yu Jinlan tries to warn Changcheng of danger shouting at him to run.
We don’t get anything more about her from the drama, but Guardian Wiki says that she is a head of the Women's Association office.
From what little we see of her she seems to be a nice and warm person. She’s the one who decided to ask Chu Shuzhi for Reunion Festival dinner, because she didn't want him to be alone on holiday. She says:
“Changcheng says that you take really good care of him. That’s why I said to ask you over to our house. On this big holiday you’re alone, and that’s just sad, right?”
And it seems that they both came to like Chu Shuzhi, even with all his eccentricates. Like Guo Changcheng says after dinner: “My uncle even complimented you. It’s not just pleasantries.”
And one more pic from that dinner, because that selfie is so funny with Guo family being all so happy and smiling and Chu Shuzhi glowering in the background. 😊
We know a bit more about Guo Ying. He’s the Deputy Minster at Haixing Inspectorate and he works for Minster Gao.
Guo Ying seems rather strict. He didn’t know that his nephew was transferred to work at SID. And when he found out he didn’t have any qualms about arranging a meeting with Zhao Yunlan and asking him to transfer Changcheng’s out of the SID over his nephew’s head.
“He’s my nephew. I know him well, he’s not meant to be a detective. Such a heavy burden is really not one he can bear.”
He says this in his nephew’s presence, but completely ignoring him, and when Changcheng protests he shouts: “I’m doing this for your own sake! Do you know how dangerous it can be? Every day you’ll be fighting monsters! Risking your life!”
It seems his shares Zhao Xinci’s sentiment about Dixingren, at least at first. In that scene later he lets himself to be convinced by Changcheng’s passionate defense of the SID and drops the subject of his nephew leaving his current job.
But Guo Ying also seems to be a good and decent person. He refuses to tell Sha Ya the schedule despite him and his wife being in danger. And when he overhears Minister Gao talking about redistributing Professor Ouyang’s serum, he urges Minister Gao to reconsider. His plea doesn’t work and only makes Minister Gao suspicious of him, and he gets locked up on Minister Gao’s order. Later he helps Li Qing and the SID to cancel Minister Gao’s order of deploying the reserve forces during the fight with Ye Zun and his followers.
After Ye Zun is defeated, Guo Ying becomes a new Minster at Haixing Inspectorate and former Minster Gao gets demoted as his secretary. He must be an attentive secretary, because he notices that Minister Guo is worrying about something and asks about a reason. The reason of course is his nephew’s arranged date. 😊
A few questions:
Guo Ying clearly knows about Dixing and Dixingren in Haixing because of his work. In episode 14 we see that his opinion about them is unfavorable. Does he know one of them works at the SID? Does he know that Chu Shuzhi is from Dixing? Does his words to Chu Shuhzi during the dinner in episode 21 “You are one of us” mean that somewhere between those two episodes he changed his mind?
Does Yu Jinlan know about Dixing? Did her husband tell her?
And most importantly will Guo Ying continue to arrange another dates for his nephew, after the fiasco that was the first one? 😉
Fanworks:
I wrote a Chu Shuzhi/Guo Changcheng fic when Yu Jinlan plays an important part:
Changing what we mean
There is one other fic tagged with her name:
Comes a Time by wrote_and_writ
It’s a lovely fic about the talk Guo Changcheng has with his aunt the night before he starts his job at the SID.
And the series Changes by Branch has Guo Ying as a secondary character in a few parts.
So, what is your opinion about them?
And if you have any recs or links for more fics, picspams, icons or fanart they are very much appreciated.
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They raised him after his parents died, and Changcheng still lives with them.
In ep 2, Changcheng talked about living with his grandmother until she died. Did they all lived together, do you think? That seems quite possible.
I was rewatching the mahjong scene the other day, and I love how Yu Jinlan "subtly" suggests what tile she needs to win, and Guo Changcheng dutifully and lovingly gives it to her, and then Chu Shuzhi steals the game anyway. Clearly Yu Jinlan is used to being a little indulged (not in a bad way; just in a slightly cheaty way) and Changcheng is used to expressing affection by playing along with that kind of thing.
(And ha! Where is the selfie from? I don't remember that at all and it's adorable!)
Guo Ying seems rather strict. He didn’t know that his nephew was transferred to work at SID. And when he found out he didn’t have any qualms about arranging a meeting with Zhao Yunlan and asking him to transfer Changcheng’s out of the SID over his nephew’s head.
Ha, yeah. Lots of people treat Changcheng as practically a minor, don't they? And Guo Ying definitely seems to feel responsible for him. I wonder if that kind of intervention -- especially when Guo Ying slightly knows ZYL professionally -- is less weird in a culture with a degree of nepotism like Haixing seems to have?
He says this in his nephew’s presence, but completely ignoring him, and when Changcheng protests he shouts: “I’m doing this for your own sake! Do you know how dangerous it can be? Every day you’ll be fighting monsters! Risking your life!”
It seems his shares Zhao Xinci’s sentiment about Dixingren, at least at first.
Oh, that's a good point! I wonder if Guo Ying distinguishes between Dixing criminals (= "monsters", and very dangerous) versus Dixing allies. Presumably nearly all the Dixingren he's heard about have been hostile (or presented as hostile in the paperwork), and he hasn't encountered many personally before, which might affect his opinion? Idk. It seems more like ignorance on his part than entrenched bigotry to me.
I do love that he listens to Changcheng's reasoning, and that he and Changcheng are attuned enough that Guo Ying can concede nonverbally, just by clinking glasses. <3 <3 <3 (It's a stark contrast to Zhao Xinci's style of parenting. *g*)
Does he know one of them works at the SID? Does he know that Chu Shuzhi is from Dixing? Does his words to Chu Shuhzi during the dinner in episode 21 “You are one of us” mean that somewhere between those two episodes he changed his mind?
I think once Changcheng has persuaded his uncle to let him keep working at the SID, Changcheng probably goes out of his way to reassure him that not all Dixing are dangerous and that lao-Chu looks after him. Changcheng and his big heart are part of what triggers the changing attitudes at the SID, and I think he'd have the same effect at home -- to both his uncle and his aunt.
Hee! I think he or Yu Jinlan will learn from the first blind date and talk to Changcheng about what he wants, and if Changcheng manages to admit the truth, his uncle and aunt won't force him into anything he doesn't want.
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Yes! That is really lovely.
Changcheng and his big heart are part of what triggers the changing attitudes at the SID, and I think he'd have the same effect at home -- to both his uncle and his aunt.
I love that thought. :D
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I remember Guo Changcheng talking about living with his grandmother, but I have this vague memory of him saying that lives with his aunt and uncle. But maybe it’s just fanfic influence, since I couldn’t find it during my recent re-watch. :) But yes, I think he probably lived with his grandmother and after her death went to live with his aunt and uncle. Or they all lived together since the beginning.
I was rewatching the mahjong scene the other day, and I love how Yu Jinlan "subtly" suggests what tile she needs to win, and Guo Changcheng dutifully and lovingly gives it to her, and then Chu Shuzhi steals the game anyway. Clearly Yu Jinlan is used to being a little indulged (not in a bad way; just in a slightly cheaty way) and Changcheng is used to expressing affection by playing along with that kind of thing.
I love that scene – Changcheng giving the tile to his aunt with that loving smile. And then Chu Shuzhi failing to read the room and declaring that he won. :DDD
Where is the selfie from? I don't remember that at all and it's adorable!
It’s the “blink and you miss it” moment just before the dinner. Lin Jing looks at him phone and it has a few Zhu Hong’s selfies and then this pic. I didn’t notice it on my first watch, too. Only much later, like on the 4th or 5th re-watch. :)
Oh, that's a good point! I wonder if Guo Ying distinguishes between Dixing criminals (= "monsters", and very dangerous) versus Dixing allies. Presumably nearly all the Dixingren he's heard about have been hostile (or presented as hostile in the paperwork), and he hasn't encountered many personally before, which might affect his opinion? Idk. It seems more like ignorance on his part than entrenched bigotry to me.
Hmmm, I always thought, too, that his opinion here was caused more because of the limited knowledge about Dixing he had at that time, and worry about his nephew, who he treats a bit like a child here, yes. Changcheng continuing working at the SID probably made him learn more about it.
Changcheng and his big heart are part of what triggers the changing attitudes at the SID, and I think he'd have the same effect at home -- to both his uncle and his aunt.
Awww... That’s so well said. And I agree. :)
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He says this in his nephew’s presence, but completely ignoring him
Guo Ying is pretty patronising towards his nephew here, but you can tell he means well. Does he think Guo Changcheng is too naive to understand the risks? But I really appreciate that when Guo Changcheng pushes back, he actually listens and gives in. It would have been better if he'd asked what Guo Changcheng thought before pushing the issue with Zhao Yunlan, but still. *g*
It seems his shares Zhao Xinci’s sentiment about Dixingren, at least at first.
Idk, Guo Ying at that point gives me the impression of someone who's never knowingly met any Dixingren. Not quite the same as Zhao Xinci's attitude, IMO. I do wonder what he'd have made of the Black-Cloaked Envoy.
Does he know one of them works at the SID? Does he know that Chu Shuzhi is from Dixing?
He already knew about the SID, but even if he didn't know details before, he would probably have looked into it more after he discovered his nephew ended up there? I think he must have known about Chu Shuzhi by the time he meets him.
Does his words to Chu Shuhzi during the dinner in episode 21 “You are one of us” mean that somewhere between those two episodes he changed his mind?
I think he may be one of those people who can think badly of a group in the abstract but can't hold on to that when faced with an actual real person in front of them.
Does Yu Jinlan know about Dixing? Did her husband tell her?
That's a very good question! But even if she didn't know before, after Sha Ya's attack I think he would have told her.
And most importantly will Guo Ying continue to arrange another dates for his nephew, after the fiasco that was the first one? 😉
LOL! I would hope not. At least, if Guo Changcheng tells him to stop I'm pretty sure he'll listen.
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Oh, I think he means well, too. Absolutely. He just worries a lot about his nephew. He probably does think that Changcheng is too sensitive and naïve for work at the SID. Guo Ying clearly thinks this is a very dangerous job (and it is sometimes :)). The way he goes about it is wrong, but it’s mitigated for me that yes, in the end he listens to Changcheng and stops pushing him to resign.
I do wonder what he'd have made of the Black-Cloaked Envoy.
And now I wonder about that, too. He met Professor Shen after all. :)
That's a very good question! But even if she didn't know before, after Sha Ya's attack I think he would have told her.
I always had the impression that she already knew by the time she asked Chu Shuzhi for dinner. I don’t know why. I think I imagined that Guo Ying told her about the SID when he found out that Changcheng was working there. And she’s scared when Sha Ya attacks them, but she doesn’t seem to be surprised by Sha Ya’s power.
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Yeah, that's a good point - she's not shocked or anything. Either she's just got nerves of steel, or she knew.
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And a few episodes later when Sha Ya tries to force Guo Ying to tell her the schedule of the top officials at the Haixing Inspectorate and Xingdu Bureau, and she attacks Guo Ying and Yu Jinlan in the street. Yu Jinlan tries to warn Changcheng of danger shouting at him to run.
Yu Jinlan cracks me up here with the way she seems annoyed rather than terrified--she has a busy schedule today and being attacked by Sha Ya is not on her list, really. She's a lot more together than her husband in this scene.
They both seem like essentially good people, though--you get the feeling that Changcheng comes by his warm heart honestly, and that toward the very end when Zhao Xinci, Guo Ying and Li Qian are running things, it's Guo Ying who is providing a lot of the necessary compassion. And you could say that it is actually a symbolic big deal for them to host Chu Shuzhi along with their nephew for the reunion festival--a high-ranking Haixing official and his wife, also a leading bureaucrat, opening their home on a family occasion to a Dixingren with a shady past, because their nephew spoke up for him (and they're willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to anyone who's good to Changcheng).
It's also a theory of mine that Guo Ying and Changcheng's mother were twins (because their names 英 Ying and 雄 Xiong together make the single word 英雄, hero, mostly), and if so I wonder if he and Chu Shuzhi will ever get to bond over the sad experience of being the surviving twin.
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LOL I love this.
And you could say that it is actually a symbolic big deal for them to host Chu Shuzhi along with their nephew for the reunion festival--a high-ranking Haixing official and his wife, also a leading bureaucrat, opening their home on a family occasion to a Dixingren with a shady past, because their nephew spoke up for him (and they're willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to anyone who's good to Changcheng).
Oh, that’s so well said. Because yes, I do think that by that time Guo Ying knew about Chu Shuzhi being from Dixing (and probably knew about Chu Shuzhi being a convicted criminal) and I think that he told his wife.
It's also a theory of mine that Guo Ying and Changcheng's mother were twins (because their names 英 Ying and 雄 Xiong together make the single word 英雄, hero, mostly),
Well, now that is my headcanon, too and I love that information about their names. Thanks.
and if so I wonder if he and Chu Shuzhi will ever get to bond over the sad experience of being the surviving twin.
Ahhh, and now I want a fic like that. :D