In episode 35 she is present but almost entirely silent when Ma Gui makes the treaty with Dixing and gives them the Hallows.
This is an exellent observation! It's so reflective of everything that happens later, with Dixing and Haixing having relations but the Yashou apparently having no (official) connection with either.
In episode 34, in a conversation with Ma Gui, she asks if ‘this timeline’ will change. So she at least believes in multiple timelines, and may have seen others.
The way I understood it, she's asking what time travel rules their universe operates under: is it automatically a closed loop, where it's always already happened and the future and the past are locked in? Or can it be changed, for better or worse - can the loop be (deliberately or accidentally) broken?
I don't think any of the characters know this for sure, but they're all very determined to uphold the timeline that will bring them ten thousand years of peace.
I find Fu You so fascinating because she had a key role in creating the separation of peoples that gets so fraught and complicated during the series, as well as the Hallows.
Yes! Despite her part in the alliance, she is the original segregationist. Clearly Ma Gui would have been up for closer relations at least between Yashou and humans. *g* I do wonder if the whole "Hallows shutting the portals between Dixing and Haixing" is her influence, as well as part of the idea that not only should Dixingren return to Dixing (fine, IMO) but that they should keep completely separate.
1. Does Fu You seem snake-like in any way or remind you of any fictional tropes about snakes? Des she have anything in common with the other Snake Tribe Yashou we meet? (Zhu Hong, Fourth Uncle)
None of the Snake Tribe seem at all like the cliché of a "snake person", but there's a clear throughline from Fu You's to Fourth Uncle's isolationism.
Why did she want Humans, Dixingians and Yashou to all live separately? Why did she think that was what would bring peace?
I don't really understand this way of thinking. Refusing to engage with others is never going to promote peace in the long term.
How was Fu You remembered among the different Yashou tribes?
The Snake tribe seems to revere her, if Zhu Hong's reaction is any indication, and given what Ya Qing says, they all seem to regard her as their (spiritual) ancestor. After all, she is the Yashou who strongly shaped what the post-war world would look like, ten thousand years ago.
What was her role in making the Hallows? Why do you think she thought they were important?
I wonder if she and Ma Gui were just trying to make use of the meteor metal, and the result turned out a bit more than they'd bargained for.
Did she actually see any other timelines? Or try to change this one?
That would make a great premise for a fic!
Did she love Ma Gui or was it one-sided? Do you think their relationship reflects on the Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan in any particular way? Or on the Zhu Hong&Zhao Yunlan relationship?
My impression was always that she did have feelings for him, but she'd decided early on that she had other priorities, and it wasn't going to happen.
What was her relationship with Shen Wei like? Was her relationship with Shen Wei different from Ma Gui’s? Do you think Shen Wei knew about her plan that Dixingians should return to Dixing? If so, what do you think he thought of it?
I don't think either she or Ma Gui had any close relationship with Shen Wei. The humans and Yashou seem to have worked together much more closely, while the Dixingren were a more separate ally. I'm not sure how much Fu You and Ma Gui trusted them, outside of strictly war-related things. And they clearly kept a lot from Shen Wei; he could not have missed that ...
I think going back to Dixing and rebuilding it was definitely part of the original plan that Shen Wei was part of - and with enough resources, there's no reason they should have to entirely abandon their previous home and all its history. I don't think Shen Wei was thinking of it in terms of complete separation, though.
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In episode 35 she is present but almost entirely silent when Ma Gui makes the treaty with Dixing and gives them the Hallows.
This is an exellent observation! It's so reflective of everything that happens later, with Dixing and Haixing having relations but the Yashou apparently having no (official) connection with either.
In episode 34, in a conversation with Ma Gui, she asks if ‘this timeline’ will change. So she at least believes in multiple timelines, and may have seen others.
The way I understood it, she's asking what time travel rules their universe operates under: is it automatically a closed loop, where it's always already happened and the future and the past are locked in? Or can it be changed, for better or worse - can the loop be (deliberately or accidentally) broken?
I don't think any of the characters know this for sure, but they're all very determined to uphold the timeline that will bring them ten thousand years of peace.
I find Fu You so fascinating because she had a key role in creating the separation of peoples that gets so fraught and complicated during the series, as well as the Hallows.
Yes! Despite her part in the alliance, she is the original segregationist. Clearly Ma Gui would have been up for closer relations at least between Yashou and humans. *g* I do wonder if the whole "Hallows shutting the portals between Dixing and Haixing" is her influence, as well as part of the idea that not only should Dixingren return to Dixing (fine, IMO) but that they should keep completely separate.
1. Does Fu You seem snake-like in any way or remind you of any fictional tropes about snakes? Des she have anything in common with the other Snake Tribe Yashou we meet? (Zhu Hong, Fourth Uncle)
None of the Snake Tribe seem at all like the cliché of a "snake person", but there's a clear throughline from Fu You's to Fourth Uncle's isolationism.
Why did she want Humans, Dixingians and Yashou to all live separately? Why did she think that was what would bring peace?
I don't really understand this way of thinking. Refusing to engage with others is never going to promote peace in the long term.
How was Fu You remembered among the different Yashou tribes?
The Snake tribe seems to revere her, if Zhu Hong's reaction is any indication, and given what Ya Qing says, they all seem to regard her as their (spiritual) ancestor. After all, she is the Yashou who strongly shaped what the post-war world would look like, ten thousand years ago.
What was her role in making the Hallows? Why do you think she thought they were important?
I wonder if she and Ma Gui were just trying to make use of the meteor metal, and the result turned out a bit more than they'd bargained for.
Did she actually see any other timelines? Or try to change this one?
That would make a great premise for a fic!
Did she love Ma Gui or was it one-sided? Do you think their relationship reflects on the Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan in any particular way? Or on the Zhu Hong&Zhao Yunlan relationship?
My impression was always that she did have feelings for him, but she'd decided early on that she had other priorities, and it wasn't going to happen.
What was her relationship with Shen Wei like? Was her relationship with Shen Wei different from Ma Gui’s? Do you think Shen Wei knew about her plan that Dixingians should return to Dixing? If so, what do you think he thought of it?
I don't think either she or Ma Gui had any close relationship with Shen Wei. The humans and Yashou seem to have worked together much more closely, while the Dixingren were a more separate ally. I'm not sure how much Fu You and Ma Gui trusted them, outside of strictly war-related things. And they clearly kept a lot from Shen Wei; he could not have missed that ...
I think going back to Dixing and rebuilding it was definitely part of the original plan that Shen Wei was part of - and with enough resources, there's no reason they should have to entirely abandon their previous home and all its history. I don't think Shen Wei was thinking of it in terms of complete separation, though.