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Focus on Li Qian
(I, and consequently the details mentioned in this post, are drama only.)
Li Qian! Shen Wei's PhD student* who quit, only to join Professor Ouyang's serum research half a year later. Raised by her grandmother alone, she sacrificed something of herself with the Longevity Dial to bring her grandmother back after a stroke – only for the grandmother she got back to not be the same one who raised her.
* Given that Shen Wei is officially 32 and already a professor, he's almost certainly just started. In the experimental sciences, professorial group building starts with a PhD student or two before expanding into postdocs. Li Qian's age bears this out as well.
When we first saw her, she was run down and tired trying to earn money to pay the medical bills by e.g. handing out leaflets. As a result, she's at the end of her rope, doubting whether it was all worth it, and when her grandmother commits suicide by overdosing on Li Qian's sleeping pills, Li Qian tries to follow her by jumping off a roof. Later, at the Department of Supervision's secret lab, she's much less ground down, and seems happy in her rolse as Institute Director a bit over a year later.

Questions!
1. What do you think the effects of the Longevity Dial are on her?
2. Do you think she has other family beyond her grandmother? (In episode 6 at about 38:25, Shen Wei mentions contacting her parents before letting her drop out.)
3. How do you think the Longevity Dial came to her family?
4. What do you think is her opinion of Dixingians? Multiple ones tried to kill her, and she was happy enough to join Professors Ouyang and Zhou for the serum research. However, she appeared conflicted later on – did she acquire ethical qualms?
5. Had she known what would happen when she held the Longevity Dial in her hands when her grandmother was in hospital, do you think she'd have done it?
6. Do you think she ever found out that Shen Wei was Dixingian?
7. How much do you think she knows about the Longevity Dial's operation? What about the other Hallows? How do you think she found out – experimenting with the Longevity Dial in the year between her activating it and canon starting, research in Professor Ouyang's lab, something else?
Fanwork recs:
[Fanvid] Let Them Eat Cake by
reishiin – this is a Li Qian/Science vid, with excellent scene choices, and is a tribute to all the mad science going on. Be sure to turn on the subtitles!
Diverging Paths by
spinningthreads – this is a canon divergence set in episode 1, where the SID doesn't turn up at the end. It's short but savoury, and
Every Other Solemn Life by
draconicsockpuppet – this is a series of short snippets of Li Qian's life, pre-canon to post-canon happy ending AU, that really make up a nice arc for her.
So - come and talk about Li Qian! Share links to meta, picspams, and related fanworks, new or old! Self-recs whole-heartedly encouraged. Basically, this is the place for anything you want to say or link to about Li Qian.
Important: If you're commenting with meta/discussion/thoughts, please say whether you're coming from a novel perspective, a drama perspective, or a blend of the two, so we don't end up talking past each other. Thanks!
Li Qian! Shen Wei's PhD student* who quit, only to join Professor Ouyang's serum research half a year later. Raised by her grandmother alone, she sacrificed something of herself with the Longevity Dial to bring her grandmother back after a stroke – only for the grandmother she got back to not be the same one who raised her.
* Given that Shen Wei is officially 32 and already a professor, he's almost certainly just started. In the experimental sciences, professorial group building starts with a PhD student or two before expanding into postdocs. Li Qian's age bears this out as well.
When we first saw her, she was run down and tired trying to earn money to pay the medical bills by e.g. handing out leaflets. As a result, she's at the end of her rope, doubting whether it was all worth it, and when her grandmother commits suicide by overdosing on Li Qian's sleeping pills, Li Qian tries to follow her by jumping off a roof. Later, at the Department of Supervision's secret lab, she's much less ground down, and seems happy in her rolse as Institute Director a bit over a year later.

Questions!
1. What do you think the effects of the Longevity Dial are on her?
2. Do you think she has other family beyond her grandmother? (In episode 6 at about 38:25, Shen Wei mentions contacting her parents before letting her drop out.)
3. How do you think the Longevity Dial came to her family?
4. What do you think is her opinion of Dixingians? Multiple ones tried to kill her, and she was happy enough to join Professors Ouyang and Zhou for the serum research. However, she appeared conflicted later on – did she acquire ethical qualms?
5. Had she known what would happen when she held the Longevity Dial in her hands when her grandmother was in hospital, do you think she'd have done it?
6. Do you think she ever found out that Shen Wei was Dixingian?
7. How much do you think she knows about the Longevity Dial's operation? What about the other Hallows? How do you think she found out – experimenting with the Longevity Dial in the year between her activating it and canon starting, research in Professor Ouyang's lab, something else?
Fanwork recs:
[Fanvid] Let Them Eat Cake by
Diverging Paths by
Every Other Solemn Life by
So - come and talk about Li Qian! Share links to meta, picspams, and related fanworks, new or old! Self-recs whole-heartedly encouraged. Basically, this is the place for anything you want to say or link to about Li Qian.
Important: If you're commenting with meta/discussion/thoughts, please say whether you're coming from a novel perspective, a drama perspective, or a blend of the two, so we don't end up talking past each other. Thanks!

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1. What do you think the effects of the Longevity Dial are on her?
It's odd but it seems to have had no effect on her at all. Not that we can see, anyway. She might still keel over at 40, having given half her life away, but it doesn't seem like her aging process has been accelerated. I also don't remember any particular gifts or allergies she displays that could be connected to it. So... yeah, if I were her, I'd expect to die young and suddenly, but meanwhile, things are good?
2. Do you think she has other family beyond her grandmother? (In episode 6 at about 38:25, Shen Wei mentions contacting her parents before letting her drop out.)
I found his mention of the parents very surprising, given how focused she is on the grandmother, but maybe they just shared a very special bond. (Though it's also odd, given filial piety and all that, that looking after the grandmother was left to Li Qian.) Maybe these parents life abroad...
3. How do you think the Longevity Dial came to her family?
I wouldn't even begin to guess.
4. What do you think is her opinion of Dixingians? Multiple ones tried to kill her, and she was happy enough to join Professors Ouyang and Zhou for the serum research. However, she appeared conflicted later on – did she acquire ethical qualms?
I could easily see how events have led her to believe that Dixingren are a danger to humans, and, following on from that, that the serum research is necessary. With that sort of belief, there would be no ethical conflict, really? From a purely human point of view, researching Dixingren genes in order to be able to defend yourself against really quite scary powers is not immoral, unless you kill them in order to do it.
I think the conflict comes into it when Prof. Ouyang seems willing to release the serum when it's not fully developed yet, and that way endanger human lives. And him injecting an unwilling Guo Changcheng is just not on.
5. Had she known what would happen when she held the Longevity Dial in her hands when her grandmother was in hospital, do you think she'd have done it?
I doubt it very mucb, because neither she nor the grandmother got anything out if it. It's not like the grandmother had any quality of life that would have made the sacrifice of Li Qian's life energy and her happiness worthwhile.
6. Do you think she ever found out that Shen Wei was Dixingian?
I wonder if she guessed. But I don't think she ever fully knew; who'd have told her and to what purpose? Especially while she was still working with the Ouyang team.
I'd totally read fic where she finds out, though!
7. How much do you think she knows about the Longevity Dial's operation? What about the other Hallows? How do you think she found out – experimenting with the Longevity Dial in the year between her activating it and canon starting, research in Professor Ouyang's lab, something else?
I always assumed she actually knew very little, she just happened to be holding it when she wished really hard that she could exchange her life for her grandmother's, and the thing activated and went whooosh, and maybe she felt a bit odd and then granny opened her eyes, and Li Qian was too happy to be freaked out by what had just happened.
I guess she finds out more as the story goes on, about it and the other Holy Tools.
Appropriate icon is appropriate.
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Yeah, given canon, I expect this is what she'll have. Unless there's further Hallows fuckery postcanon.
One option I heard aired was that (in some intersection of the one-child policy and the preference for sons) her parents dumped her on grandma and went on to try for a son again; idk how realistic this is or what it implies about Li Qian's financial background.
Nodnod. Having had a positive interaction with Chu Shuzhi, who was later revealed to the public to be a Dixingian, might've added to the scales on the sides of going against Professor Ouyang. Or it was just her aligning herself with the SID, who'd saved her life already.
Perhaps. It'd be a source of constant doubt and second thoughts for her nonetheless.
If she was told, it was either post-canon by a SID member – Lin Jing or Guo Changcheng, perhaps – or something she discovered by going on a dive through the file on the Black-Cloaked Envoy and reading that he has a civilian identity called Shen Wei. (Her security clearance probably wasn't that high, but...) Or Professor Ouyang found out and tried to discredit Shen Wei in her eyes?
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I remember that now too! That is of course possible. And if the parents managed to have a son, and they aren't that rich, it might also explain why she has to work to keep herself going.
Oh yes, that too - it would have allowed her to at least mentally query the 'all Dixingren are a danger to humans' narrative.
Post-canon, I don't think much stand in the way of her discovering about Shen Wei; after all, the secret no longer matters. And I'm sure she'll still be in touch with the SID a lot so yes, someone will definitely tell her.
You mean post-canon? There wouldn't be much point? If Ouyang had known during the show, I'm sure he'd have used it as a weapon in many ways.
(Also, I always assumed Ouyang was dead after his little serum hulking incident.)
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Oh, no, I meant in a canon divergence way! I agree that had Ouyang known, he'd have swung it around like a mallet.
I wonder whether she'd feel guilty about some of her attitudes, if she learned that Professor Shen was Dixingian?
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Yeah, I read somewhere that that's what happens in the novel, but I don't know for sure either.
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For me, as with Lin Jing but even more so, the absolute pivotal fascinating Li Qian moment is the brawl in the serum lab and its before and after. Li Qian has been uncomfortable with the project before then (see: sending anonymous emails of warning), but she hasn’t walked out or deliberately sabotaged its work. My ideas on why: a) it’s the only thing she’s had since she left the university and she is reluctant to have her life knocked out from under her for the second time in, what, a few months?; b) she may still think of Dixingren as terrifying murderous shadow-people, meaning there’s some point in creating a serum to counter them; c) like Lin Jing, she has an interest and investment in doing the pure science and not thinking too hard about the underlying ethical issues.
During the fight in the lab, however, it’s very forcefully brought home to her that things have gone beyond that point: she sees the serum turning her boss into a supervillain, who attacks Lin Jing, a friend and colleague (I wrote 10K of fic about Lin Jing & Li Qian friendship and I still want more of it) and Guo Changcheng, obviously an innocent and possibly also a friend. (I always notice that Li Qian calls Xiao Guo “Changcheng” there, which seems pretty intimate. My theory is that they’ve spent more than a few quiet hours together on their respective grave visits; does canon support this anywhere?)
The next time we see her is when she turns up in Zhao Xinci’s office to start setting things to rights in episode 38; she is absolutely glowing, full of self-possession and fulfillment like we’ve never seen her, and I think it’s because she’s finally free of all kinds of doubt and worry and fear and feels able at last to take control of her own life? I find it even more satisfying than the glimpse of her doing well at the end. It also kind of makes me cry that Shen Wei never got to see her that way.
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Wrt a), she quits her PhD less than a month after the first episode, and only joins Professor Ouyang's team 6-ish months later; the final showdown happens about 3 months after that. (The timeline cues are there, just sort of downplayed.) So within the year, and she'd definitely be feeling the effects of her primary parental figure dying, but not immediately-immediately. Agreed on b) and c).
Ooh, I didn't notice that! We do see Guo Changcheng visit Li Qian's grandmother's grave, but no meetings. I suppose they could've bonded a bit with offscreen grave meetings?
It's a very good look for her, yes. And now you made me sad as well! (Fixit fic? Fixit fic.)
Also, I have your 10k Li Qian & Lin Jing fic open in a tab, but what even is reading, /o\, etc
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Oooh, that's an interesting observation! I don't remember any canon corroboration, but it seems very plausible to me.
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Do we ever see an opportunity where Shen Wei might have tried to reverse its effects on her? Because if there were effects, once he knew about her using the Dial, I'm sure he would have surreptitiously tried to counter them.
I did a silly poll question on this ages ago, FWIW. :-)
From episode 1:
Li Qian: Oh, by the way, Professor, those people who came that day, can they really catch Mei's killer?
Shen Wei: I think that they are not ordinary people.
Li Qian: Are they also monsters?
Shen Wei: No. They are not monsters. They are just more... special. Real monsters only exist in people's hearts.
I think Li Qian trusts and looks up to Shen Wei enough to take this to heart, and that as she learns more about the SID, it only strengthens this view.
Depends how much she knew. If she knew it would bring her grandmother back, with some unspecified costs, then yes. If she knew her grandmother wouldn't be fully herself, then no.
Her grandmother told her stories about it, which had been handed down the generations with the Dial itself. Some of them are love stories, some are stories of heroes and monsters, some are ominous like warnings. Lian Qian and her grandmother never thought the stories were anything but allegories or fairy tales. And they never dreamed that the Dial in their family could be the ancient Dial in the stories. How could such a thing really exist? /headcanon made up just now :-)
Fanworks:
I know this isn't your thing, so just ignore; including it here for completeness: like sunlight on scales -- Zhu Hong/Li Qian post-canon, in which Li Qian has a life debt (or two) to repay, and a plan to repay them.
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Not really, unless you think that happened offscreen during episode 2 and he wouldn't have needed the Hallow.
Ty for bringing up that conversation from episode 1! I imagine she'd be conflicted/ambivalent, then.
My personal read of the grandmother resurrection thing is that Li Qian had no idea what was going on, so I don't think she'd have heard stories? At least not from her grandmother. IDK.
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Agreed on that!
(But damn, I still want to see her actually find out that Shen Wei is Dixingren.)
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I love Li Qian's relationship with Shen Wei, and the way he mentors her and tries to take care of her. They have some excellent conversations in the first few episodes – there’s the bit about monsters that was already quoted above, but also these bits of dialogue:
Li Qian: "When someone you hold most important is dying in front of you, what's the strongest thought in your mind?"
Shen Wei: "I'm willing to exchange my life for his."
Li Qian: "Doing everything in your power to protect someone - is it really worth it?"
Shen Wei: "It is."
Which establishes a parallel between Shen Wei and Zhao Yunlan on one side and Li Qian on her grandmother on the other, and gives us some insight into the things that drive Shen Wei right from the start.
What do you think the effects of the Longevity Dial are on her?
I think it probably cost her some of her lifespan, though the Hallows are capricious enough that just about anything would be plausible.
Do you think she has other family beyond her grandmother? (In episode 6 at about 38:25, Shen Wei mentions contacting her parents before letting her drop out.)
She presumably has parents, yeah, but they seem to be estranged. I don't think she has any family other than her grandmother that she has any meaningful relationship with.
What do you think is her opinion of Dixingians? Multiple ones tried to kill her, and she was happy enough to join Professors Ouyang and Zhou for the serum research. However, she appeared conflicted later on – did she acquire ethical qualms?
She never seemed to me to have anti-Dixing attitudes even while researching the serum. And yes, multiple Dixingren tried to kill her, but on the rooftop, against the Shadow Man, it was Chu Shuzhi with his strings who saved her. And I do think she listened to Shen Wei during that conversation about monsters.
I think she thinks having the ability to defend against overpowered criminals is entirely reasonable, and trying to understand those abilities and how they’re created is entirely reasonable, and she doesn’t develop qualms about the lab until she realises that Prof. Ouyang is totally unhinged. That starts before he goes completely off the rails, because he starts being OTT and pushing them to take shortcuts pretty early, IIRC. Enough to make anyone wary.
Had she known what would happen when she held the Longevity Dial in her hands when her grandmother was in hospital, do you think she'd have done it?
If she had known exactly what state it would leave her grandmother in, no.
Do you think she ever found out that Shen Wei was Dixingian?
I don't think she did, in canon. But probably during that year that passes at the end. It’s something I'd love to see in fic! (In multiple fics. Lots of different takes, please! *g*)
How much do you think she knows about the Longevity Dial's operation? What about the other Hallows? How do you think she found out – experimenting with the Longevity Dial in the year between her activating it and canon starting, research in Professor Ouyang's lab, something else?
IIRC she says in episode 2 that she didn’t know what it was, she’d only heard that it could manifest spirits. But I think she probably examined all the old stories she's been told as a kid for clues, and she may have found something there. I think by the time the show starts, she thinks she knows how it works, or at least has a strong working hypothesis. She probably did try to use it again after she realised her grandmother’s condition, trying to help her again, so she would probably have experimented ...
ETA: Forgot to add - my favourite Li Qian fic: Through a Glass, Darkly by
It's excellent plotty Li Qian-Lin Jing friendship fic, with a brief Shen Wei cameo towards the end.
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Yes! Wasn't there some discussion aaaages ago about how Shen Wei's protective feelings for young!Ye Zun might be mirrored here? I may be misremembering.
Yes, and then there's his expression when she says, "Something that I paid dearly for is just a stranger that looks like her." And later in the car he says, "Those that were hurt and betrayed... Perhaps it's impossible to return to the past." I think those are deliberate parallels/foreshadowing, aren't they? Though I wonder whether his statement is about Kunlun or Ye Zun...
Having just rewatched bits of ep 2, she does seem to feel like she's already paid dearly. Maybe that's having to care for a grandmother who no longer recognises her, or maybe it did strip away some of her life force/vitality. Or both.
She says she's never known her parents' love, so yeah, it sounds like she was abandoned quite early.
Thanks for linking
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I don't remember exactly, but
Yes, and then there's his expression when she says, "Something that I paid dearly for is just a stranger that looks like her." And later in the car he says, "Those that were hurt and betrayed... Perhaps it's impossible to return to the past." I think those are deliberate parallels/foreshadowing, aren't they? Though I wonder whether his statement is about Kunlun or Ye Zun...
I think the bit about hurt and betrayal is more about Ye Zun. And the bit about the stranger is more about his fears regarding ZYL than about reality? But both are definitely meant to parallel/foreshadow something about Shen Wei, yeah.
Thanks for linking nnozomi's fic!
The first part in that series is also excellent, if you haven't read that yet. :)
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Yes. And Li Qian's reaction viscerally demonstrates just how terrible and upsetting that would be.
I've grabbed both parts. :-)
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The first two episodes make a really nice intro for the whole series!
Do you recall any fics you might want to recommend? :P
Ohh, interesting catch there. I agree that she'd have experimented – though IDK if it would've responded to her again? It seems to be very erratic.
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I don't remember any right now, sorry!
though IDK if it would've responded to her again? It seems to be very erratic.
Yeah. Either way sounds plausible to me - that it flared up again for her, or that it didn't.
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1. What do you think the effects of the Longevity Dial are on her?
I fully believe her lifespan was cut in half, and she'll die young. How that manifests is up for interpretation... initially I was thinking that she's just die due to some instantaneous health condition (heart attack?) but there are a lot of angsty alternatives, like cancer or even something similar to her grandmother like early onset Alzheimer's... now I'm made myself sad D:
2. Do you think she has other family beyond her grandmother? (In episode 6 at about 38:25, Shen Wei mentions contacting her parents before letting her drop out.)
I completely forgot about that tidbit from the show? I always imagined that she didn't, given how she was taking care of her grandmother (her parents should have been doing that if they were alive, typically). I could see her having some distant cousins that she's not close to, though.
3. How do you think the Longevity Dial came to her family?
I think it was stated that it's been in their family for generations? Which brings up an interesting question about her bloodline; did they intermarry with some Dixingren way back when? How did they get the Dial? I've always liked the idea that Li Qian was part Dixingren and that's why the Dial reacted to her at all.
4. What do you think is her opinion of Dixingians? Multiple ones tried to kill her, and she was happy enough to join Professors Ouyang and Zhou for the serum research. However, she appeared conflicted later on – did she acquire ethical qualms?
I believe that she didn't know about Ouyang's ethical problems when first joining the lab, IIRC the sequence of events. She doesn't strike me as disliking Dixingren, and I would speculate that Shen Wei probably tries to quietly shut down prejudiced talk by his students when he can, maybe even slip in some ethical lessons into his lectures? (Especially given how genetics research can be used/abused.) Since she would work closely and often with him, he would likely encourage her to see Dixingren as people just like her. It's probably similar any sort of societal racism; she has to consciously check her privilege and misconceptions that have influenced her.
5. Had she known what would happen when she held the Longevity Dial in her hands when her grandmother was in hospital, do you think she'd have done it?
No, not with what happened to her grandmother. I think she would have accepted the consequences for her own health without hesitation though, if it actually restored her grandmother fully.
6. Do you think she ever found out that Shen Wei was Dixingian?
Yes! The end of the drama is very very rushed, and I have Thoughts about how it all went down, but I fully believe that Li Qian has actually known that Shen Wei was Dixingren for a while before the end and that's part of the reason why she helped the SID so much. *nods*
7. How much do you think she knows about the Longevity Dial's operation? What about the other Hallows? How do you think she found out – experimenting with the Longevity Dial in the year between her activating it and canon starting, research in Professor Ouyang's lab, something else?
Haha, not much, just like the rest of us! I definitely think she tried to get the Dial to do something for her grandmother after she realized what happened, but also think that she probably wasn't able to activate it again at all. She probably knows a lot about what it doesn't do and what it isn't, but not a lot about how it actually works.
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OOF. Yeah, that's ... gonna be hard. It'll be sad even if it's just super sudden, but if it's protracted it'll hurt harder.
It's a family heirloom, yep. The thought of Li Qian having a Dixingian great-grandparent or something (if the Dial came up at a similar time as the Awl, about 100 years ago) is interesting, though now all I can think of is Professor Ouyang discovering and throwing her out of his lab... *g*
That's a very good point! He's very responsible; I'm sure he'd lecture on bioethics as well.
How do you think she found out, then, if it was while she was still in Professor Ouyang's lab? Or do you mean she'd found out her thesis supervisor was an alien pre-canon?
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Oh dear, I wonder if they used their own DNA to do some of the analysis? I think it'd be pretty hilarious if there were just a ton of people who had Dixing ancestors Way Back When and it massively confounded their results lolololol.
How do you think she found out, then, if it was while she was still in Professor Ouyang's lab? Or do you mean she'd found out her thesis supervisor was an alien pre-canon?
My most canon-compliant theory is that Lin Jing tells her when he goes back to be a triple agent, and that before then she had suspicions given how invested Shen Wei obviously was with the SID, but I have a soft spot for the idea that Shen Wei is Not As Good At Pretending To Be A Normal Human Being As He Thinks He Is (see: every single interaction with ZYL) and Li Qian starts to.. wonder if Prof. Shen is an alien... when she is introduced to the idea that Aliens Are Real And Not Just Out There But Are Already Among Us. And maybe one day Shen Wei does some dark energy thing accidentally where she can see, and they stare at each other in mutual startlement, until she is like "wow professor shen what amazing reflexes you have to be able to catch that falling flowerpot with your bare hands to save me (instead of using your alien powers)!" and then they both pretend nothing unusual ever happened. And that's when Shen Wei really starts to get closer to her and be a mentor in her personal life as well as her academic one. QQ I just want Li Qian to have a good life and be professionally successful and have good relationships with her peers and advisor, is that too much to ask??
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And me. D:
I would speculate that Shen Wei probably tries to quietly shut down prejudiced talk by his students when he can, maybe even slip in some ethical lessons into his lectures? (Especially given how genetics research can be used/abused.)
Oooh, yes, completely agreed - now that you mention it, I'm completely convinced that he would!
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That would be a really cute 5+1 times fic idea, actually. *slaps self* no! Don't give yourself more ficbunnies!
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Write it! write it! :D *eggs on*
Self-recs!
One vid:
[Vid] Shadows Crawling, Li Qian alone, drawing from her arc in episodes 1 and 2.
Li Qian & Shen Wei:
Purple Wisps of Greyish Mist, where she discovers his identity due to his secret identity fail, and also a canon divergence AU.
Cracks on the Ice, where Shen Wei has Li Qian be prejudiced about Dixingians at him and doesn't tell her.
Running Against the Wind, where Li Qian turns up in Dixing when the blood is flying and saves the day, after which Shen Wei tells her he's from Dixing.
Li Qian & Ye Zun:
Pour Away the Ocean, where Li Qian tries drowning instead and Ye Zun portals her over to Dixing so he can have the Longevity Dial.
Li Qian/Sha Ya:
Sparks Fly, porn with antagonistic sex and Dixing powers misused for sexual purposes.
Deepest Desires, where Sha Ya's running a honeypot operation on Li Qian, but instructions were unclear.
Towards the Golden Sky, where a grieving Li Qian goes to get enrichment in her life and meets Sha Ya at a gig.
Suddenly, Science, where Sha Ya's running a honeypot operation on Li Qian to get at the serum and catches feelings, with an excursion into mushrooms in the middle.
Li Qian/Dong Nan:
Can One Switch the Dawn and Dusk? where Li Qian meets Dong Nan at the graveyard.