I never noticed because in the previous couple of shots, he's leaning forward, grimly furiously defiant. I'm really not sure where that laugh came from (and it's only there for a couple of frames, right?)!
Yeah, all true! That might have been from a different take? I know they filmed this scene multiple times (including one take where Shen Wei manages to touch Zhao Yunlan's hand before he falls).
Yeah, it's a wonder he doesn't kill Zhao Yunlan to punish Shen Wei. He certainly could have (and it would have worked /o\)!
/o\ /o\ /o\
> But that moment of cringing back, of hesitation - you can really see his former, helpless self in him here. > For all his power, he's never managed to leave that behind. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe that's the thing he's really trying to annihilate in all this.
Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it!
It's so horrific. (There can see a faint possibility that Lin Jing's "again" is referring to himself? But I think it's more likely Ye Zun has just kept eating and eating.)
Yeah, I agree with you on this. It seems to me that Ye Zun has been eating A LOT.
Oh, that's an excellent point (and actually kind of ties into the WIP I just sent you for beta, a little bit ;-).
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I really can't see Zhao Xinci voluntarily sharing that information with his family, especially when he has a Dixingren on board. Maybe Shen Xi found out (from Gao Jingfeng being careless?) and Zhao Yunlan heard her and Zhao Xinci talking about it/arguing? Or just before or after that argument in the portal flashback, it was inadvertently revealed at the station, and then Zhao Xinci had to come clean? Or maybe it was part of the explanation to Zhao Yunlan about why his dad was in hospital? So many possibilities!
Yes, so many! I'm with you on not thinking it likely Zhao Xinci would voluntarily share. I think right now my preferred interpretation is Shen Xi finding out, and then Zhao Yunlan overhearing his parents arguing and being caught overhearing (so his father knows that he's heard it).
(I initially thought about Zhao Yunlan finding out via Da Qing, but that doesn't line up with Da Qing only joining the SID 10 years ago - Zhao Yunlan must have been in his late teens by then.)
LOL! I wonder if he healed him a bit, too. Zhao Yunlan was sagging against the ropes quite a lot earlier, and he's healthy enough to climb over walls and things once he escapes the palace...
Good point, yes!
That's such a good question. I guess the sky pillar is surrounded by the remains of other buildings -- maybe he witnessed civilisations one or two thousand years ago and picked up some manners then?
True, the ruins weren't always ruins, and the pillar must have been amidst buildings and people at some point! (I always wonder about that field, and how it turned into what it is now - and what role Ye Zun may have played in that ...)
Maybe he figured it out when he saw Zhao Yunlan sucked into the wormhole at the SID? He's seen a wormhole like that before, after all...
Excellent point - yes, you're right, he would absolutely have put two and two together from there.
Do you think he would have trusted the Regent enough to tell him? Maybe, instead, he dropped enough hints to lead the Regent to betray him in exactly the way he wanted? I feel like the Regent only suggested it to save his own skin -- I got the impression he was betraying Zhao Yunlan -- but maybe he's a better actor than I give him credit for. (Or maybe I'm projecting my preconceptions, and it was being choked that made him convincing. ;-p)
Honestly, I'm pretty sure the Regent very badly wants to be rid of Ye Zun himself. I really don't think "to save his own skin" can be separated from "helping Zhao Yunlan", because I don't think the Regent is under any delusion at this point that cooperating with Ye Zun will work out for him for very long. And I think Zhao Yunlan counted on that - not on the Regent eing trustworthy, but on the Regent being canny enough to know that. I mean, I don't think Zhao Yunlan gave the Regent much choice - he took him hostage and told him something like, "don't worry, you can tell him you did it on purpose, to find the Lantern," and it's not like the Regent would have passed up such a good excuse!
But apparently only when the puppet is with Guo Changcheng (since he's now lost contact). It is intriguing!!
Very!!!!!!
Or they haven't linked the pillar with Ye Zun and everything that's going on, and they just want random pillar guy to send them back to Haixing?
I'm pretty sure Sha Ya, having worked for Team Ye Zun while the Master of the Merit Brush was active and trying to break Ye Zun out of the Pillar, should know better!
Though, I mean, he was lied to for years by a mind-controlling abuser...
Yeah, he's had his head turned around by an expert. It's not just his own obsession that makes it hard for him to see past his preconceived notions. But I find it incredibly striking that he's just completely blinding himself to any and all evidence that his worldview might not be 100% correct.
He could have put two passwords in there -- the one he wanted her to say, and the one he expected her to say ("the most beautiful starry sky")? ;-p
Aw, that would be really sweet! I kind of love that. :D
Maybe Sha Ya recounted her past (to explain why she too had a grudge against Zhao Xinci), and Ya Qing did some recon and found Huo Yuzhu, in case that would be useful at some point? Still weird, though.
That would make some sense, I guess. But agreed, still weird!
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Yeah, all true! That might have been from a different take? I know they filmed this scene multiple times (including one take where Shen Wei manages to touch Zhao Yunlan's hand before he falls).
Yeah, it's a wonder he doesn't kill Zhao Yunlan to punish Shen Wei. He certainly could have (and it would have worked /o\)!
/o\ /o\ /o\
> But that moment of cringing back, of hesitation - you can really see his former, helpless self in him here.
> For all his power, he's never managed to leave that behind.
Yeah, absolutely. Maybe that's the thing he's really trying to annihilate in all this.
Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it!
It's so horrific. (There can see a faint possibility that Lin Jing's "again" is referring to himself? But I think it's more likely Ye Zun has just kept eating and eating.)
Yeah, I agree with you on this. It seems to me that Ye Zun has been eating A LOT.
Oh, that's an excellent point (and actually kind of ties into the WIP I just sent you for beta, a little bit ;-).
♥ ♥ ♥
I really can't see Zhao Xinci voluntarily sharing that information with his family, especially when he has a Dixingren on board. Maybe Shen Xi found out (from Gao Jingfeng being careless?) and Zhao Yunlan heard her and Zhao Xinci talking about it/arguing? Or just before or after that argument in the portal flashback, it was inadvertently revealed at the station, and then Zhao Xinci had to come clean? Or maybe it was part of the explanation to Zhao Yunlan about why his dad was in hospital? So many possibilities!
Yes, so many! I'm with you on not thinking it likely Zhao Xinci would voluntarily share. I think right now my preferred interpretation is Shen Xi finding out, and then Zhao Yunlan overhearing his parents arguing and being caught overhearing (so his father knows that he's heard it).
(I initially thought about Zhao Yunlan finding out via Da Qing, but that doesn't line up with Da Qing only joining the SID 10 years ago - Zhao Yunlan must have been in his late teens by then.)
LOL! I wonder if he healed him a bit, too. Zhao Yunlan was sagging against the ropes quite a lot earlier, and he's healthy enough to climb over walls and things once he escapes the palace...
Good point, yes!
That's such a good question. I guess the sky pillar is surrounded by the remains of other buildings -- maybe he witnessed civilisations one or two thousand years ago and picked up some manners then?
True, the ruins weren't always ruins, and the pillar must have been amidst buildings and people at some point! (I always wonder about that field, and how it turned into what it is now - and what role Ye Zun may have played in that ...)
Maybe he figured it out when he saw Zhao Yunlan sucked into the wormhole at the SID? He's seen a wormhole like that before, after all...
Excellent point - yes, you're right, he would absolutely have put two and two together from there.
Do you think he would have trusted the Regent enough to tell him? Maybe, instead, he dropped enough hints to lead the Regent to betray him in exactly the way he wanted? I feel like the Regent only suggested it to save his own skin -- I got the impression he was betraying Zhao Yunlan -- but maybe he's a better actor than I give him credit for. (Or maybe I'm projecting my preconceptions, and it was being choked that made him convincing. ;-p)
Honestly, I'm pretty sure the Regent very badly wants to be rid of Ye Zun himself. I really don't think "to save his own skin" can be separated from "helping Zhao Yunlan", because I don't think the Regent is under any delusion at this point that cooperating with Ye Zun will work out for him for very long. And I think Zhao Yunlan counted on that - not on the Regent eing trustworthy, but on the Regent being canny enough to know that. I mean, I don't think Zhao Yunlan gave the Regent much choice - he took him hostage and told him something like, "don't worry, you can tell him you did it on purpose, to find the Lantern," and it's not like the Regent would have passed up such a good excuse!
But apparently only when the puppet is with Guo Changcheng (since he's now lost contact). It is intriguing!!
Very!!!!!!
Or they haven't linked the pillar with Ye Zun and everything that's going on, and they just want random pillar guy to send them back to Haixing?
I'm pretty sure Sha Ya, having worked for Team Ye Zun while the Master of the Merit Brush was active and trying to break Ye Zun out of the Pillar, should know better!
Though, I mean, he was lied to for years by a mind-controlling abuser...
Yeah, he's had his head turned around by an expert. It's not just his own obsession that makes it hard for him to see past his preconceived notions. But I find it incredibly striking that he's just completely blinding himself to any and all evidence that his worldview might not be 100% correct.
He could have put two passwords in there -- the one he wanted her to say, and the one he expected her to say ("the most beautiful starry sky")? ;-p
Aw, that would be really sweet! I kind of love that. :D
Maybe Sha Ya recounted her past (to explain why she too had a grudge against Zhao Xinci), and Ya Qing did some recon and found Huo Yuzhu, in case that would be useful at some point? Still weird, though.
That would make some sense, I guess. But agreed, still weird!