I think Shen Wei counts as a counterexample too - the attack only leads him to spend more time with Zhao Yunlan. ♥
Yes, agreed. They also work as a counterpoint to all the insincere dates. ♥
His wardrobe must have survived, since the next day (or at least when we see them next) Shen Wei is wearing different clothes, ones he's worn before
I thought he might have left those at Zhao Yunlan's place at some point, but good point about all his other outfits. Phew!
But I think his office is probably too publicly accessible; no one would expect anyone to keep confidential material there.
Idk, he must keep student-related confidential info there, don't you think? And if they're looking for science, that's probably where most of his science stuff is, too.
Zhao Yunlan is clearly wondering why Ye Zun's people would have risked encountering the Envoy, and what they could possibly have wanted from his flat. But it has nothing to do with him being the Envoy, and everything to do with his Haixing research connections. Another instance of the lines between his roles blurring
Ha, yes! A pleasing twist on the usual approach.
Incidentally, according to this it's Wang Xiangyang who's finding new candidates for them - I wonder how he does it. Maybe the Merit Brush helps with that? Can it lead him to people who share his goals?
Or maybe they take turns? It was Ya Qing who recruited Zu Ma -- though I suppose WXY could have found him first. I got the impression Ya Qing was running point on Sha Ya, which ditto.
I adore this whole scene so much, starting with the orange.
Yesss! *rewatchs just for the hell of it*
Always LOL over "Daqian", which means "big money". :D
Hee!
Also, regarding Da Ji, she says later she's tired of acting like a mature woman, and Zheng Daqian thanks her for running the household and managing their finances, so she does seem to have acted more mature in that identity. I wonder how much her post-murder behaviour, including towards Da Qing, is due to the trauma making her regress.
That's an excellent point! In the flashback to when she knew Da Qing in the past, she's clingy but not violent like that, and she has had time to grow as a person since then. (I wonder how old she is. Presumably not 10k years like Da Qing!)
Zheng Daqian wanted to transfer money, but it's not possible because Da Ji just withdrew all the funds.
Excellent! ;-p
I think from Wang Xiangyang's point of view, the woman Zheng Daqian thought he killed repeatedly appearing again (being seen by the girlfriend, and withdrawing the funds, at least) is meant as a stand-in for the dead Bai Suxia appearing to him, just like Wang Xiangyang at the hospital claimed to be Bai Suxia.
That's an awesome way of looking at it! Headcanon adopted! :D
He says when they ("we") investigated the wife
Good question. I have no ideas for that.
Also, according to Cong Bo she's using the name Da Ji with the dating agency, which is also the name she used with Zheng Daqian (according to the flashback with the phone call to the banker). But I guess if he didn't report her death and she's not officially dead, she didn't have to officially give up that identity.
Ha, true. I'm glad that asshole didn't make it so she had to give up her name.
I wonder if the suit is deliberately bad because he doesn't want to be dating, even fake-dating?
I like the DCIM theory that satsuma linked above that Da Qing borrowed it from Cong Bo. (Probably Da Qing wanted to go in his overalls, and Lin Jing and Cong Bo insisted he had to dress up, lol.)
Her saying they've just met, but it feels like they've known each other for a long time, echoes what Zhao Yunlan says to Shen Wei in episode 2, in sentiment if not in exact wording. Very cool parallel there, with two people who know each other, but one of them doesn't remember ... for different reasons, obviously, but still a parallel!
Oh, that is very cool. It's a shame these two aren't mutually destined, in that case!
LOL, that's a great thread. Thanks for linking! <3
And a team member going off with a person under investigation isn't something they'd want to let happen without someone keeping an eye on things, so of course they'd follow when Da Qing and Da Ji go for a walk.
True, though, you know, she's mostly the victim up to this point. Reporting his financial crimes isn't exactly a Team Merit Brush-worthy punishment, imo.
I find it really annoying that Zhao Yunlan is so amused by Da Qing being attacked, and doesn't take it seriously at all.
I think he thinks Da Qing can hold his own against another cat. He's really not taking into account Da Ji's unhingedness. /o\
And yeah, he seems to recognise Da Ji as a cat. I still wonder how that sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't.
Hm, now you say that, are there any points where he meets a Yashou in human form and doesn't recognise them as Yashou? I can't think of any. Maybe it's more obvious than Dixingren?
Meanwhile, it looks to me like Zhao Yunlan steps in only so Shen Wei won't have to
That's how I read it, too. He doesn't want the Envoy to have to intervene -- that would be escalation.
Haha, yeah, and it's the same in the flashback when she's hit by that car!
He's super attached so long as he doesn't have to, like, interact with her. *g*
There's a car accident ... and then Da Qing just walks off with the corpse, carries her to the river (or wherever that is) and leaves her there?! What?!
Ha! I didn't even think of that. Maybe (as per one of the linked DCIM posts above) they were both really in cat form at the time but that doesn't show up in their memories?
The Viki subs have this as: "My heart won't be able to take it if we continue like this. Got it?"
Man, this is why there's such a thing as divorce! ;-p (Otoh, maybe he's floated the idea of divorce before and she didn't react well? That's not impossible...)
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Symbolic life, literal ashes. *g*
I think Shen Wei counts as a counterexample too - the attack only leads him to spend more time with Zhao Yunlan. ♥
Yes, agreed. They also work as a counterpoint to all the insincere dates. ♥
His wardrobe must have survived, since the next day (or at least when we see them next) Shen Wei is wearing different clothes, ones he's worn before
I thought he might have left those at Zhao Yunlan's place at some point, but good point about all his other outfits. Phew!
But I think his office is probably too publicly accessible; no one would expect anyone to keep confidential material there.
Idk, he must keep student-related confidential info there, don't you think? And if they're looking for science, that's probably where most of his science stuff is, too.
Zhao Yunlan is clearly wondering why Ye Zun's people would have risked encountering the Envoy, and what they could possibly have wanted from his flat. But it has nothing to do with him being the Envoy, and everything to do with his Haixing research connections. Another instance of the lines between his roles blurring
Ha, yes! A pleasing twist on the usual approach.
Incidentally, according to this it's Wang Xiangyang who's finding new candidates for them - I wonder how he does it. Maybe the Merit Brush helps with that? Can it lead him to people who share his goals?
Or maybe they take turns? It was Ya Qing who recruited Zu Ma -- though I suppose WXY could have found him first. I got the impression Ya Qing was running point on Sha Ya, which ditto.
I adore this whole scene so much, starting with the orange.
Yesss! *rewatchs just for the hell of it*
Always LOL over "Daqian", which means "big money". :D
Hee!
Also, regarding Da Ji, she says later she's tired of acting like a mature woman, and Zheng Daqian thanks her for running the household and managing their finances, so she does seem to have acted more mature in that identity. I wonder how much her post-murder behaviour, including towards Da Qing, is due to the trauma making her regress.
That's an excellent point! In the flashback to when she knew Da Qing in the past, she's clingy but not violent like that, and she has had time to grow as a person since then. (I wonder how old she is. Presumably not 10k years like Da Qing!)
Zheng Daqian wanted to transfer money, but it's not possible because Da Ji just withdrew all the funds.
Excellent! ;-p
I think from Wang Xiangyang's point of view, the woman Zheng Daqian thought he killed repeatedly appearing again (being seen by the girlfriend, and withdrawing the funds, at least) is meant as a stand-in for the dead Bai Suxia appearing to him, just like Wang Xiangyang at the hospital claimed to be Bai Suxia.
That's an awesome way of looking at it! Headcanon adopted! :D
He says when they ("we") investigated the wife
Good question. I have no ideas for that.
Also, according to Cong Bo she's using the name Da Ji with the dating agency, which is also the name she used with Zheng Daqian (according to the flashback with the phone call to the banker). But I guess if he didn't report her death and she's not officially dead, she didn't have to officially give up that identity.
Ha, true. I'm glad that asshole didn't make it so she had to give up her name.
I wonder if the suit is deliberately bad because he doesn't want to be dating, even fake-dating?
I like the DCIM theory that
Her saying they've just met, but it feels like they've known each other for a long time, echoes what Zhao Yunlan says to Shen Wei in episode 2, in sentiment if not in exact wording. Very cool parallel there, with two people who know each other, but one of them doesn't remember ... for different reasons, obviously, but still a parallel!
Oh, that is very cool. It's a shame these two aren't mutually destined, in that case!
Just wanted to link to this comment thread about "dageda", because I just looked it up again.
LOL, that's a great thread. Thanks for linking! <3
And a team member going off with a person under investigation isn't something they'd want to let happen without someone keeping an eye on things, so of course they'd follow when Da Qing and Da Ji go for a walk.
True, though, you know, she's mostly the victim up to this point. Reporting his financial crimes isn't exactly a Team Merit Brush-worthy punishment, imo.
I find it really annoying that Zhao Yunlan is so amused by Da Qing being attacked, and doesn't take it seriously at all.
I think he thinks Da Qing can hold his own against another cat. He's really not taking into account Da Ji's unhingedness. /o\
And yeah, he seems to recognise Da Ji as a cat. I still wonder how that sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't.
Hm, now you say that, are there any points where he meets a Yashou in human form and doesn't recognise them as Yashou? I can't think of any. Maybe it's more obvious than Dixingren?
Meanwhile, it looks to me like Zhao Yunlan steps in only so Shen Wei won't have to
That's how I read it, too. He doesn't want the Envoy to have to intervene -- that would be escalation.
Haha, yeah, and it's the same in the flashback when she's hit by that car!
He's super attached so long as he doesn't have to, like, interact with her. *g*
There's a car accident ... and then Da Qing just walks off with the corpse, carries her to the river (or wherever that is) and leaves her there?! What?!
Ha! I didn't even think of that. Maybe (as per one of the linked DCIM posts above) they were both really in cat form at the time but that doesn't show up in their memories?
The Viki subs have this as: "My heart won't be able to take it if we continue like this. Got it?"
Man, this is why there's such a thing as divorce! ;-p (Otoh, maybe he's floated the idea of divorce before and she didn't react well? That's not impossible...)